[ SECRET POST #3853 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3853 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Alt-Right has a much more varied meaning than white nationalist. Some are, sure. But most people who use the term mean it to mean not card carrying Republicans, the sort who are trying to reform the party from within.

SJWs are by definition nuts.

[(Anonymous)]

I would just like to point out, for the record, that the person who is promulgating the idea that SJWs are all crazy is also defending the reasonableness of the alt-right

Just pointing that out for the record

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Anyone who is not an idiot or a SJW knows that SJW and social activists are definitely not the same and that SJW are all nuts and incredibly harmful, that's why they are labeled SJW.

But keep trying, maybe one day you'll get it.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure that's not the same person.

[(Anonymous)]

....wow.

[(Anonymous)]

nah white nationalism is always a part of the alt right though they may be things other than that. its one of the essential things that separates them out as 'alt' instead of just 'far' right. people use the term wrong sure but it has been defined

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right

[(Anonymous)]

And the people who defined it aren't the people who use it. Their agenda is far from pure.

[(Anonymous)]

except if you read the first sentence, they are quoting directly the alt right person who coined the term, Richard Bertrand Spencer? the whole thing is centered around "white identity"

[(Anonymous)]

Be that as it may, an awful lot of not white Americans took up the alt right banner during the last election cycle. Like,a lot of terms, it's been co-opted to mean something else. And nearly all of the people who took up the name had no idea it was,already in use by a guy with fringe beliefs, and moreover, didn't especially care.

[(Anonymous)]

What percentage of non-white Americans took up the alt-right banner last election cycle

And what percentage of non-white Americans constitutes "a lot"

[(Anonymous)]

You want me to quantify my anecdotal experience for you? Fat chance. Any numbers I could come up with would be dismissed out of hand.

If you care to do your own research, look up videos of rallies from the presidential campaign. There were many examples. They were the ones the left were deriding for 'voting against their own self interests' and having the nerve to 'get off the plantation'.

[(Anonymous)]

Numbers are useful because they help quantify how meaningful those experiences are, and how central those people are to the alt-right as a general movement. Whereas anecdotal experience is not generally that meaningful, because it's isolated and small in number. If the number of people who are non-white in the alt-right movement is very small, they're probably not central to the movement or to defining the movement, and therefore not a good argument against the idea that the alt-right is racist.

And, I mean, this is not something that is specific to this particular instance. You want to get a sense of the magnitude of something before you can usefully talk about how significant it is. Very small numbers of people doing things are usually not very representative or significant. Very small numbers of people behave in unusual ways all the time without it being meaningful.

[(Anonymous)]

eh partially agreed, mostly not agreed. if you say something like "feminism" a core group comes to mind for most people and defines the basics of the idea and movement, just like when you say "alt right" a core group comes to mind and defines the basics of the idea and movement.

other groups besides the core exist for sure and may be worse or better and are certainly different within the same banner and not have all the core traits but the banner is held by the core and foremost group and when the label is applied, it generally carries the traits of that core group, and people that believe that white identities and societies are being attacked or ignored are a big part of that core