[ SECRET POST #3853 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3853 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

DA

arent SJWs by definition crazy though? this is like arguing the alt-right aren't white nationalist. if they weren't white nationalist, they wouldn't be alt-right, they'd be 'conservatives.'

unless you're taking SJW to mean everybody with an opinion on social justice, no matter how extreme?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. Please replace with "People that the Internet dismisses as SJWs might not be entirely insane and evil". I don't think the term is used in a very precise way at all.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

i agree the term is not used in a very precise way at all. but if OP is using the term SJW to specifically mean the very extreme end of the spectrum people then that argument has no relevance still.

is this secret true of some extreme people, of course it is. is it not true of many less extreme people who get dismissed as SJWs, of course it is too. it depends on what OP means by SJW which is unclear but you auto assume it means anyone with an opinion and are ranting about it as if that must be what OP meant, is what i'm saying

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, the secret as written doesn't make any distinction between "the crazy people who are SJWs" and "the reasonable people who want diversity". The secret as written is about how people who want diversity are constantly moving the goalposts and are never satisfied and should be ignored. OP is also being very unspecific themselves in their use of the term, is what I'm saying.

And then when you use the term in that sweeping way, regardless of what you means, it feeds into a broader discourse about how arguing for diversity makes you crazy.

[(Anonymous)]

i think maybe you are not understanding my point? for some people, which might include OP, they would never use the term "SJW" to mean "the reasonable people who want diversity" in the first place as to many people, the term "SJW" is only inclusive of the crazy people.

if you read the secret again, it is only about the people OP considers "SJWs". who this group includes might depend, but OP did not for certain include "reasonable people who want diversity" in there; that is what you are putting in.

OP may have meant to do that. i cant tell you either way. but neither is certain, yet you are acting like your reading is for sure correct and i can't see the evidence for that, as written

[(Anonymous)]

I think, even if OP's post is genuinely ambiguous as to what they meant, I'm fine responding to it the way that I have.

My own personal sense is that the term is generally not used in the reasonable way that you outline. My own personal experience is that, when people talking about SJWs, they almost always include the people who are saying that having a woman Doctor is good but we should also be aware that it's not perfect. That's the kind of reaction that people think is crazy and evil. If that's not what OP meant, then I'm sorry to OP personally. But even if that's not what they meant, I'm comfortable with responding to the words they said the way that I did.

[(Anonymous)]

well, i'm glad that you are doing things that you are comfortable with, lol

i was only pointing out that the posted rant assumes a very broad definition of SJW that not everybody shares, and also a definition that not everyone responding to this secret in agreement may share, which i thought was a point worth making because people tend to assume extremes and get angry with each other

[(Anonymous)]

Alt-Right has a much more varied meaning than white nationalist. Some are, sure. But most people who use the term mean it to mean not card carrying Republicans, the sort who are trying to reform the party from within.

SJWs are by definition nuts.

[(Anonymous)]

I would just like to point out, for the record, that the person who is promulgating the idea that SJWs are all crazy is also defending the reasonableness of the alt-right

Just pointing that out for the record

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Anyone who is not an idiot or a SJW knows that SJW and social activists are definitely not the same and that SJW are all nuts and incredibly harmful, that's why they are labeled SJW.

But keep trying, maybe one day you'll get it.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure that's not the same person.

[(Anonymous)]

....wow.

[(Anonymous)]

nah white nationalism is always a part of the alt right though they may be things other than that. its one of the essential things that separates them out as 'alt' instead of just 'far' right. people use the term wrong sure but it has been defined

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/alternative-right

[(Anonymous)]

And the people who defined it aren't the people who use it. Their agenda is far from pure.

[(Anonymous)]

except if you read the first sentence, they are quoting directly the alt right person who coined the term, Richard Bertrand Spencer? the whole thing is centered around "white identity"

[(Anonymous)]

Be that as it may, an awful lot of not white Americans took up the alt right banner during the last election cycle. Like,a lot of terms, it's been co-opted to mean something else. And nearly all of the people who took up the name had no idea it was,already in use by a guy with fringe beliefs, and moreover, didn't especially care.

[(Anonymous)]

What percentage of non-white Americans took up the alt-right banner last election cycle

And what percentage of non-white Americans constitutes "a lot"

[(Anonymous)]

eh partially agreed, mostly not agreed. if you say something like "feminism" a core group comes to mind for most people and defines the basics of the idea and movement, just like when you say "alt right" a core group comes to mind and defines the basics of the idea and movement.

other groups besides the core exist for sure and may be worse or better and are certainly different within the same banner and not have all the core traits but the banner is held by the core and foremost group and when the label is applied, it generally carries the traits of that core group, and people that believe that white identities and societies are being attacked or ignored are a big part of that core

DA

[(Anonymous)]

DA

There's being respectful of differences and there is "everything you say or do is racist / ableist / transphobic / homo-bi-ace-phobic / misogynist / sexist / ageist / something-phobic" being thrown out to derail any further discussion because the person accused has to defend themselves against that and the discussion never gets back to the root of the matter. The SJW then sits back and revels in how "progressive" they are when they didn't solve anything.

The absolute worst SJWs only act behind a computer screen and never do anything substantial for their cause offline. Hey, I'm just generalizing like they generalize. They expect everybody else to do their dirty work instead. Even disabled activists dependent on total care still find a way to get out and do shit. When was the last time anyone saw these militant SJWs do that? The absolute most they do is disrupt rallies and turn into fodder for cringe compilation videos later.

I think OP is tired of seeing everything I show does never be good enough to satisfy the 'craycray' SJWs.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not going to get into this stupid argument about how everyone who wants diversity is a hypocrite who doesn't get out and demonstrate, I will just say that OP is completely unspecific about how they're using the term SJW.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's fairly obvious they're talking about the unreasonable ones who won't stop complaining no matter how well written or diverse something is. They have no concept that nothing is perfect and that creators owe them zilch.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

The question is what counts as unreasonable. I think they think they're responding to people being unreasonable, but I think that people who talk about SJWs generally include about 90% of people who think more diversity is good as "unreasonable".

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

What I find unreasonable and what I think OP is getting at is they went crying for a woman, weren't specific about what kind of woman and getting all angry that she's white because how dare someone default to white.

To make it smaller, it's like being a minority in a foreign country like Mexico where the people default to Mexican more or less and that minority person visiting there is mad that a show cast a Mexican actor or actress for something.

Imagine Egypt with a black actor or actress. Etc. Etc. Etc.

That is what I'm reading in the secret.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

They actually said what counts as unreasonable in their very comment so if you'd take your head out of your ass to ask actually read what was being written instead of imagining things you think were maybe written, you'd see that.

SA: Typo correction: everything a^ show does

[(Anonymous)]

Damn it, I'm not wide awake enough for this crap.