[ SECRET POST #3877 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3877 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Justin Roiland & Dan Harmon]


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[Law & Order: SVU, Chicago Justice]


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[Pyre]


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[Gloria Burgle and Winnie Lopez, season 3 of Fargo]


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[@Midnight with Chris Hardwick]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 28 secrets from Secret Submission Post #555.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/2Ez8rmK.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Really don't understand that personally, but you do you I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

You could get a small black and white television and only allow yourself one half-hour episode a week.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly liking New Who doesn't mean you need to like Old Who, they are two very different shows. New Who is still a bit cheesy but the old effects were on a shoestring budget and are laughable, and that can make old sci fi hard to watch.

And outside of effects, the storytelling and pacing is largely different. The old doctors and companions are fantastic but other then that I wouldn't say old who is necessarily an easy watch, especially if you are used to the newer series.

[(Anonymous)]

You need shiny and glitzy. Depending on the era, some stories had very few effects other than models and matte backgrounds. The viewer needed to use their imaginations. How is your imagination, OP? Can you shut your eyes and see pictures? Or do you need everything laid out before you?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think OP's secret indicates that they need shiny and glitzy. It just indicates that bad effects take them out of the story. I definitely don't need shiny and glitzy. I tend to prefer movies with minimal effects, myself. But if there's going to be effects, then they need to look good.

It's not a matter of how much imagination a person has. If a movie wants to skip effects, show a lot less of the flashy stuff, and leave me to fill in the blanks, I can do that just fine. What I can't do is ignore really horrible, awkward, fake looking effects.

[(Anonymous)]

Sounds like a lack of imagination to me alright.

[(Anonymous)]

Kay.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god, is it Insufferable Git Day again already?

[(Anonymous)]

If you shut your eyes you're not really watching a tv show anymore.

I have a much easier time reading books or listening to radio shows and imagining a world then trying to contradict a world that is already in front of me on television. Bad effects can be distracting.

[(Anonymous)]

OK, seriously, track down the novelizations. You get the old stories without the production issues.

Terrance Dicks's prose adaptations were how I got into Doctor Who as a child, and honestly, much of the actual TV show was a disappointment.

Novels really are a better form for science fiction. TV is a good form for doing a crap job of it and playing it off as 'camp.'

[tree_and_leaf]

Some of them are available as radio plays* - and of course there's the Big Finish plays, some of which are absolutely brilliant.

* Of course, in some cases, the soundtrack's all that's left!

[(Anonymous)]

I've found some of them were paced a bit too slow for my liking, but some of them were quite good - with not-awful effects, either. Definitely a lot more effort to "imagine it could be real" with older sci-fi, though. I think there was one alien I saw, in one of four's episodes (I think it was four?) that was literally just, like... a sheet of plastic?

Personally, I really liked Leela, Romana, and Ace's episodes, though. And a great deal of the Tegan and Nyssa stuff. I'd like to one day see all of it.

[(Anonymous)]

"Ark in Space" is well known for the green bubble wrap monster.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't think of a good example, but sometimes I felt the story was spread too thin across all the episodes and I'd start to lose the plot even though I was watching them back-to-back on a VHS tape from the library, so all I'd remember after was a bunch of running around. Not always, but sometimes I'd find myself thinking "You could have told thos story in a much shorter amount of time and it would have been tighter and more effective."

[sabotabby]

That's one of my favourite things about it. It's really inventive, like watching a bunch of kids trying to tell a story with nothing but toilet paper rolls and a flashlight, except the actors are all doing their best to sell the guy in a rubber suit as a serious scary thing. But I get that it's not for everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I usually tell people that they should understand that Old Who is for small children that are halfway scared by foam rubber, or for grownups that think foam rubber is funny.

I fall into the latter category.

[sabotabby]

I have been in both categories because I am An Old.

[tree_and_leaf]

Sometimes I'm in both categories now... the special effects sometimes managed to be genuinely creepy even though they were obviously cheap. I still think the Cybermen had never been scarier than their first incarnation. The body horror element came through much more strongly.

[sabotabby]

Oh, yeah. I loved that they brought them back for the S10 finale. They're so much scarier than the modern rubbish Cybermen.

[arcadiaego]

Using Four made me think of the creature from Ark in Space that's literally just a man wrapped in bubble wrap crawling along the floor. Bless them. I kind of take crappy effects as being part of the charm of Old School Who but I do have trouble with the earlier RTD stuff. CGI seems to age worse than bubble wrap somehow.

Bonus secret: I still think Daleks are stupid.