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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-08-25 06:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #3887 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3887 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely agree. I mean, to be honest, I can't really understand why anyone in the fandom would want MORE mythology episodes - they've been weak points for the show since long before the revival season. I would say going all the way back to when the movie came out. The mythology has never ever worked as a cohesive whole, and I don't know how you can really love X-Files in 2017 and not come to realize that.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? The mythology was intriguing at first but thanks to virtually NO planning of long term story arcs, it quickly became a barely comprehensible tangled mess of plotlines, conspiracies and sub-conspiracies. IMO they were usually the weakest parts of any season and the revival bears that out in a very painfully obvious way.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The only time myth arc episodes were good was when they didn't really know where they were going so they just focused on doing good paranoid spy stories and throwing cool-ass shit on screen.

Once they started caring about how it all fit together, the episodes stopped being cool-ass paranoia episodes BUT ALSO they never actually tied it together in a satisfying and planned-out way. Worst of both worlds.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You and I are in 100% agreement. *fistbump*

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
TV seems to have really shifted away from standalones in general. It's not surprising that some fans have found that what they liked in the 90s doesn't seem as satisfying now.

In very short seasons, standalones can really rapidly start to feel like filler.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, they absolutely were filler even in the original series run. But they were GREAT filler, that often stands the test of time far better than the mythology arcs that were supposedly the main point of the show.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
But, like - I'm not saying you're wrong, I think a lot of people do think like that. But what frustrated me about that idea is, why do episodes have to be filler just because they don't propel the overarching plot forward? They can still be good episodes of TV. They can be really good. Not just the Clyde Bruckmans and Jose Chungs, but there's also something really satisfying and good about watching and enjoying a random standalone episode of the X-Files, like a Squeeze or an Ice, or Quagmire, or Detour, or Soft Light, or whatever else. The pleasure of watching standalone episodes like that is really central to my enjoyment of X-Files and I don't get why that's not enough for people in itself.

/yelling at clouds pointless rant that's not directed at you sorry

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-08-26 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
The TV world needs more short stories and fewer story arcs that go nowhere and do nothing for half the season.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Shows that are designed from the beginning to have major over-arching plots without standalone episodes, where the writers figure things out ahead of time and things make sense and have eventual endings and emotional payoffs, are a different animal that the X-Files was. The X-Files didn't really start out like that, and in continuing the mythology over the years, things kind of got muddled and complicated, which is why a lot of people remember stand-alone episodes being the ones they liked best.

Most X-Files fans I know generally prefer the monster-of-the-week episodes (although they might name a few standout mytharc episodes), so I wonder if people complaining about not enough mytharc actually watched the show that much when it was first on, or are just assuming that the fact that it had a mythology means it's like Stranger Things or Game of Thrones rather than being more episodic.

(Anonymous) 2017-08-25 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the mythology was the weak part of the original series, frankly. Parts of it were interesting, but it got so big and complicated, I couldn't keep track of it anymore. It just sort of collapsed under its own weight. For a while, it did get me excited about what would happen next, but the payoff never seemed to be there. Between those two things, the mythology just stopped being enjoyable for me long before the show ended. I was watching only for the standalone eps by later seasons, and I quit entirely when I realized the last season wasn't wiping the slate clean and just giving us The Doggett and Reyes Have Weird Adventures Show.