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⌈ Secret Post #3918 ⌋

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(Dance Moms)

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

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[In Treatment]

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[Life]

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[glee & buffy the vampire slayer]

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Born before 1950.

Katharine Hepburn

She is the egomaniac of all time and her whole life is devised to receive the standing ovation that she has had at the end of her great personality performance. As the play nears its end and she is sure of her success, she becomes raged, the years roll off her, and she becomes a young schoolmistress. Up till then she has, to my way of thinking, been as unlike Chanel as anyone could be. With the manners of an old sea salt, spreading her ugly piano-calved legs in the most indecent positions, even kicking her protégée with her foot in the "London" scene, standing with her huge legs wide apart and being in every gesture as unfeminine and unlike the fascinating Chanel as anyone could be. Her performance is just one long series of personal mannerisms.

I would not have thought audiences could react so admiringly, yet the first time I saw a run-through rehearsal, I was impressed and even touched. But ever since I've found her performance mechanical, inept (her timing is erratic), she stops and laughs, she falters over words, she is maladroit, and she is ugly. That beautiful bone structure of cheekbone, nose and chin goes for nothing in the surrounding flesh of the New England shopkeeper. Her skin is revolting and since she does not apply enough make-up even from the front she appears pockmarked. In life her appearance is appalling, a raddled, rash-ridden, freckled, burnt, mottled, bleached and wizened piece of decaying matter. It is unbelievable, incredible that she can still be exhibited in public.

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Never has anyone been so one-tracked in their determination to succeed. She knows fundamentally that she has no great talent as an actress. This gives her great insecurity so she must expend enormous effort in overcoming this by asserting herself in as strident a manner as only she knows how. She must always be proved right, only she knows, no matter what the subject. It is extraordinary that she has not been paid out for her lack of taking advice. But even if this is her last job, and it won't be, she will have had an incredible run for incredible money. She owns $20 million. She is getting $13,000 a week. But in spite of her success, her aura of freshness and natural directness, she is a rotten, ingrained viper. She has no generosity, no heart, no grace. She is a dried-up boot. Completely lacking in feminine grace, in manners, she cannot smile except to bare her teeth to give an effect of utter youthfulness and charm. (This, one of her most valuable stage assets, is completely without feeling.) She is ungenerous, never gives a present, and miserly. She lives like a miser, bullies Phyllis [Willbourn] and thinks only of herself day and night. She is synthetic, lacking in the qualities that would make such an unbearable human being into a real artist.

I hope I never have to see her again.

Lol sounds like Ms. Hepburn turned him down for sex

Veronica Lake

Cary Grant
Lillian Gish
Ramon Novarro
Anna May Wong
Dolores del Rio

Good list!

[insert racist white folk here]

Then post some non-racist ones or get off your high horse.

Or some non-white ones (there were a few at least).

James Cagney
Christopher Lee
Barbara Carrera
Raquel Welch
Jean Seberg

Roger Ebert said this and he has a point:

But when Raquel Welch speaks, she sounds like every drive-in waitress and every beauty queen and every female high school class president and every not-very-bright good sport you ever heard. She stands there in that bikini, with her hair flowing in the breeze, and her face looking haughty and beautiful, and then she opens her mouth and says, "Gollee, you fellows have got yourself the wrong gal. I didn't kill him, honest. I mean, really."

And the whole thing falls apart. Raquel plays a dental technician from California, who comes to Europe for skydiving championships and is recruited into a spy ring to get back an H-bomb trigger. And she's in lots of intrigue and danger, with Chinese spies and all, and the whole thing depends on maintaining the fantasy. It isn't fun unless you can believe, at least a little bit, that this beautiful girl is really involved in this business.

And you can't. The whole plot depends on her being at least a little credible, and she isn't. In the end, she isn't even very sexy. Her voice holds no promise or mystery, and her movements aren't alluring. She isn't at ease before the camera. She moves stiffly, she stands awkwardly, and when she talks it doesn't matter what she's saying, it comes out the same.

What a shame. Maybe Raquel Welch is the archetypal American sex symbol of our time, and she's what we deserve. Jane Russell was dumb and sultry, and Marilyn Monroe was fresh and funny, and Carroll Baker was nervous and anemic, and finally we get Raquel Welch, who is perfect. An Amazon. But don't touch, she might break.

I get the point of this, but I also I hate this kind of commentary about the flaws of actresses who are also sex symbols. She got hired as an actress because she was amazingly beautiful FFS. There were probably hundreds of actresses who could have made her roles 'believable', but they wouldn't have fit the 'fantasy' that the producers were going for and people (i.e. men) would have complained that X actress didn't have the 'presence' (i.e. body/face) of Raquel Welch or some such shit. And in both these scenarios the women who get chosen to play some bullshit male fantasy are the ones who get shit on if they then fall short. Of a fantasy. Ugh.

Where were the bullshit commentaries on how Sean Connery isn't believable as an international spy because he has an incredibly recognisable accent, and plus he isn't believably 'sexy' enough to get all the women he does because of x,y,z characteristics? Oh right, they don't exist.

I'm pretty sure Sean hasn't had all the plastic surgery in the world, and I know he can actually pronounce English words Raquel has problems with, like "look" and "help".

How is that Raquel's fault though? Isn't it the casting director/producers' faults for choosing physical beauty over acting ability/diction? Why does she have to bear the brunt of the criticism for what is actually a critique on what an industry force feeds a society and what society accepts as a portrayal of an ideal woman?

Also, acting is cutthroat business where appearances can be everything. Many actors and actresses have come out about the pressure to get plastic surgery and their reasons to get it or not. People have been discussing the ethics of plastic surgery for decades, and I'm pretty sure the consensus on either side is that individuals shouldn't be singled out for choosing to go that route.

Marlon Brando

Robert Redford

Patrick Stewart!

Back in the day?

Jane Russell
Paul Newman
Robert Redford
Ian MacKellan

Montgomery Clift
Merle Oberon
Laurence Olivier
Ava Gardner

Joan Crawford
Lauren Bacall
Dorothy Dandridge
Ava Gardner

Gregory Peck
Tyrone Power
Sidney Poitier
Yul Brenner

And I just love to see them : Cary Grant, Clark Gable, Gene Kelly, Barbara Stanwyck, Jennifer Jones, Rita Hayworth

Clint Eastwood & Shirley Maclaine, Harry Belafonte. Rosalind Russell too!

i forgot Steve McQueen and Marlon Brando!

Judy Garland
Rene Auberjonois

Jane Fonda, Catherine Deneuve, Veronica Lake, Lauren Bacall.

Yul Brynner

That man was hot.

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