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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-20 05:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #532 ]


⌈ Secret Post #532 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #076.
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Re: 108

(Anonymous) 2008-06-20 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
What bothers me more are all the crazy slash fen who think there junk is canon.... ;;>.> It almost never is. I think shipping itself has ruined most of Fandom; everything is about romance and sex. People invest too much time into what sex lives the characters have.

Re: 108

[identity profile] night-is-fallen.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with that too. I've seen too many reviews on fics and the like that have said something along the lines of "Oh, this is great but you know such-and-such character is actually gay, right?" (See icon for example of such a character.) And I'm just like, HUH? WHEN DID THEY SAY THAT? You point me out the moment IN CANON that they said that, and I'll concede the point to you. But really? Sexualities are RARELY blatantly stated in canon (at least, in the ones I'm familiar with), so to say that they are CANONICALLY GAY is ridiculous. So is saying that they're canonically straight for that matter.

Also? If I see a person in canon involved in a hetero-relationship, I'm going to assume that they are straight. Or at the very least bi. It's a SAFE ASSUMPTION. I also HATE it when the female half of such a pairing is beaten down by the fans, who say she's evil and a bitch or a slut or whatever ... all because the guy who is part of their slash-ship LIKES her? THAT IS RIDICULOUS.

All I'm saying is ... sometimes guys like girls. And ONLY GIRLS. Sometimes it happens. It's how we all got here, for the most part, isn't it?

Re: 108

(Anonymous) 2008-06-20 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT? XDDDD Him, gay, really? What?

Re: 108

[identity profile] night-is-fallen.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, I know. I mean, I'm pretttttty sure with everything that went down in the game, and things that various NPCs remark about that he's a straight-arrow. But I don't want to start a whole lot of wank about it. But yeah, basically I think he's about as straight as it gets. ;)

Re: 108

(Anonymous) 2008-06-20 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandom is a strange animal, seriously.

It's entertainment....and there is a reason so many people lampoon Fandom. XD Lets get rabid and wanky over what videogame characters are really truly gay.
Oh dear.

Slashers + Dis-Like of Slash + Thoughts On Slash + That's Not Canon = Insta-Wank

Re: 108

[identity profile] night-is-fallen.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
LOLOL I know, right? Like what a thing to wank about. WHO IS OR IS NOT GAY. Seriously, guys? SERIOUSLY?

And your formula should be made into an icon of some sort. It would be glorious. XD

Re: 108

(Anonymous) 2008-06-20 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Saying you dislike slash in front of slashers is like adding too much soap to the laundry--it just ends in frothing and splooge. Really messy, and completely, not worth it. XD And if any one wants to make that formula into an icon, I would LOL, it would be awesome.



Re: 108

[identity profile] night-is-fallen.livejournal.com 2008-06-20 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
And yet ... they just feel free to bash all over het. DOUBLE STANDARD FOR THE FAIL.

If I had icon-making skillz, I so would. Alas, nope. :(

Re: 108

[identity profile] candle-swans.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Say whaaat? Balthier...is really pretty much...straight...but I still ship him with Vaan...and Ashe...and Penelo...come on there's sexual tension all over the place, and since there is so little actual romance you just sort of jump on the hints and those hints are hilarious.

Re: 108

[identity profile] night-is-fallen.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
That's one of my favorite things about FFXII, from a fanfic-writing standpoint. You can pretty much make a case for ANYONE with ANYONE in that game, and have enough in-game stuff to back you up.

But to BOLDLY state that Balthier is CANONICALLY gay, is just ... no. On so so so many levels.

Re: 108

[identity profile] candle-swans.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well...yeah, that's very true. I kind of ship everything in that game, but my like, SUPER SHIP is Balthier/Vaan. With secondary and tertiary being Vaan/Penelo and Balthier/Penelo...guess who my main party is?

Hahaha. The same thing goes for FFX though. I mean, there is a huge, epically huge case for Tidus/Yuna that pretty much overrides everything, and I ship it hard, but I still manage to ship Tidus/Wakka and Tidus/Rikku on the side. I love them all so much...

Re: 108

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
This is making me "nostalgic" for the "old days" of Trigun fandom... oy, the double standards...

There were at least a few people (that I knew of) that claimed that Vash/Wolfwood was a canon couple, but only one person I knew that was very forceful about it, but I'd say that all of them were pretty condescending toward het shippers and gen fans if you encountered them. (Or maybe they just struck *me* that way?) Not that there weren't condescending het shippers, either...

And some of the claims for "how it was canon" bordered on the ridiculous, really. Then, you'd get yelled at if you expressed a thought such as "Well, I don't think they're canon unless I see a declairation of such or until they kiss in a panel of the official manga."

Oh, and I've been called homophobic for personally thinking/writing/roleplaying Vash the Stampede as straight. Vash - whose only been seen flirting with women and who outright stated once, in the anime "I don't like sleeping with men."

And of course, the female most of the het shippers liked pairing him up with was declaired a bad partner for him on the grounds that she was "abusive" when, well... Wolfwood's not only hit him, but has drawn a gun on him and has, in both the anime and manga thought about killing him.

Thankfully, Trigun fandom has calmed down a great deal since the "old days." Never played the Final Fantasy games, so I don't know too much about their fandoms, but it looks like there's a lot of drama there, eh?