case: ([ Ryohei; DINOSAURS. ])
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-06-20 05:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #532 ]


⌈ Secret Post #532 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #076.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: #124:

[identity profile] lejic.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
First of all, as I said in my comment, all that I said was to help HER, not to be mean. I said she should avoid that stuff because it's pointless to get sad/upset over. Kind of like when you tell little kids they should ignore people who tease them at school - the act(the teasing) isn't right, you gotta do what you can do.

As a yaoi fan, I need to say:

Obnoxious behavior != (aka =/= ) labeling your fic "non-con". She's bothered, from what I understand from her replies to the comments that I read afterward, is not that the porn exists but rather that it is named "non-con" as if non-consensual is "OK" and/or more acceptable than rape.

Your weird friends and their excessive fangirling is obviously not just LABELING their own fic AS WELL AS THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE. I mean, unless you go out of your way to let people know about it, just labeling your fic non-con is about as obnoxious as making random RL posts on your LJ.

Your friend would not shut up - aka she IMed you, emailed you, talked to you or whatever, depending on whether she was a RL friend or not. That means she interacted with you. The OP is bashing on people who're just labeling their own fics on their own sites/ljs and not IMing the crap out of her.

Re: #124:

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand your point, but I really think you're reading too much into it.

Still, some people are pissed that stuff exists and will express that. That's what happens on the Internet and they're as easy to ignore as anyone else. I mean, I'm pissed off that stupid drivers exist, but there's nothing I can do about it - so I'll bitch in my LJ from time to time. I can't make anyone go to driving school, and I'm not about to make anyone exist, but am I annoyed that bad road behavior exists? Yep.

Then again, fandom is different than real life in that people tend to think not liking my kink=judging me as a person. Sometimes it is, but I'm willing to bet that most of the time, it's not.

I wish a *lot* of things didn't exist in fandom, myself, but, I'm just too lazy and not-wanting-to-hear the wank to submit any secrets myself.

This is just proof. Unless one's "secret" is "I'd hit it!" or "I ship it!" someone's gonna complain and treat them like they're horrible for it.

Re: #124:

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, *not exist... not about to make anyone not exist. The typo is strong with me today.

Re: #124:

[identity profile] lejic.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Your icon!

Haven't seen the Tick in aaaages!

Re: #124:

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I borrowed a bunch of the comics from a friend and I just had to scan and color that panel.

The Tick = <3

Re: #124:

[identity profile] lejic.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to burst your bubble but I think those secrets get a lot of wank too. The whole "GET ORIGINAL" or "YOU'RE A GIRL YOU NEED TO SHLICK NOT FAP" etc etc.

Fandom = wank. At least fandom!secrets is.

And actually, to be perfectly honest I think you read too much into it. You assumed she had all those friends bothering her etc. I think she just wanted people to stop "misusing" a term. And I told her to avoid it since it's not worth it.

I do agree about the cab drivers etc though, obviously.

Re: #124:

[identity profile] shadsie.livejournal.com 2008-06-21 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I did kind of assume/get the impression that she was being actively bothered by people when she said "If you get off to it, fine.... but shut the fuck UP about it!"

(Having actually written a horor fic involving rape once, emotional scars, it wasn't pretty nor was it meant to be "porn," etc.) I (personally) find the idea of fantasy-kink style, rape-turned-romance stuff pretty, well, stomach-churning to put it bluntly, but I've found it easy enough to avoid.

I haven't even encountered fics that were "Let's have this character raped as punishment because we hate him/her" - that strikes me as the "Let's kill the character in many horrendous ways because we hate him/her"-the next level. That idea strikes me more as "immaturity" than necessiarly "sickness," but I would still back away pretty quick from an author who did that sort of thing.