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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-10-30 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3953 ⌋

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Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who doesn't think 14 is a helpless child uwu? Like, yeah, if you're 26, don't hit on a 14 year old, that's weird, but... 14 year olds have sex. They're not virginal pristine nuns.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you are not the only person. Kevin Spacey and Bryan Singer also have no problem sexually assaulting minors!

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi. What part of 26+14 is creepy don't do that, did you miss? But people keep throwing the word 'child' around on all of this and I think that it's a) intentionally inflammatory, and b) insulting to teenagers to act like they don't know what sex is.

NO ONE SHOULD DO ANYTHING TO ANYONE OF ANY AGE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT (and honestly, people should practice the 'half your age+7' rule if you're at an age where a gap is going to be looked upon as weird). This is a no brainer. But acting like a 14 year old would never want sex or has no clue what sex is is ridiculous.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
What part of 26+14 is creepy don't do that, did you miss?

Because just describing it as "creepy" and "weird" understates the degree of its wrongness. It's not just, like, a little iffy.

But acting like a 14 year old would never want sex or has no clue what sex is is ridiculous.

The question is not whether a 14 year old would want to have sex. The question is whether a 14 year old is ever capable of consenting to having sex with an adult, and the answer is no.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
14 year olds are not sexually mature, nor capable of giving informed consent for sex with adults

Hitting on a 14 year old is not just "weird". It is predatory and morally wrong. Calling it "weird" and saying that people who are objecting to it are prudes is fucked up. What on earth is this opinion.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Did I call them fucking prudes? No. I completely agree that it's wrong. I just don't like the word 'child' and 'pedophilia' being flung around when it's not the truth and it's like throwing gasoline on a fire for no reason.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The funny thing the OP didn't say pedophilia? Is this Kevin Spacey? ARE YOU ON F!S?

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, you got me.

(But seriously, practically every fucking newsfeed and twitter conversation has people with pitchforks yelling PEDOPHILE!)

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn

It's fucked up that all those crazy people out there made you come into F!S and defend the reasonableness of wanting to have sex with a 14 year old

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does anyone who isn't of legal age need to be a helpless child? Anthony Rapp has been traumatized by the experience of Spacey making advancements on him.

14 isn't a fully developed brain that can cling onto anything and apply it to who you are as a growing person.

Sadly, you aren't the only one who thinks this is shrug-worthy.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-30 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think the issue is that 14 year olds are "virginal pristine nuns," it's that there's a big difference in power and experience between a 26 year old and a 14 year old. I had older people hit on me as a preteen and young teenager, and the creepy things to me were: that I was never sure at the time whether the person was hitting on me or not, due to lack of experience (now, I can look back on it and see that they obviously were), and that I still felt like I was supposed to be polite to adults and that outright disobeying them could get me in trouble. All that "respect your elders" stuff. So felt like I had to try to weasel out of the situation without offending anyone, plus I couldn't outright say anything, because what if I was wrong and just imagining something more sinister in an innocent interaction?

I wasn't a "pristine nun" in my mind (I was a virgin), but I didn't have the life experience to really know what was going on and I didn't feel like I had the right to fully stand up to adults.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-31 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
People are missing that even if Rapp were 49 (Terry Crews's age) it would still be wrong to throw another person onto a bed and climb on top of them, without permission, because you want sex.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-10-31 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
And not just about Spacey either, the whole point of #metoo is to point out how sexual harassment and abuse are epidemic within certain industry cultures. Spacey's just one of the more notorious chickenhawks/dirty old men of show business.

Re: This twitter thread (LGBT and consent)

(Anonymous) 2017-10-31 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Sex with each other. There is an ocean between two 14 year olds having sex and a 26 year old pinning a 14 year old to a bed.