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[ SECRET POST #3965 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3965 ⌋

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05. https://i.imgur.com/aUu4efu.png

Like, what happened? I hear about it but never see details because that's revolting and I wouldn't watch that show if the creator was that gross.

Oh, it was really entertaining wank, definitely worth a read:

https://fanlore.org/wiki/Diana_Gabaldon

https://kate-nepveu.dreamwidth.org/836748.html

To add to that, it's believed to have started when one of the author's for the Support Stacie auction (which back then was a fan auction to raise funds for a cancer patient's medical bills) innocently asked Ms. Gabaldon if she could write a fanfic of her work for the auction. And that started the whole thing off. Among the other things she said, she called the auction a scam and Stacie a schemer trying to steal money.

Somewhere in the middle of this one of her 'fans' posted Stacie's personal information on one of Gabaldon's anti - fanfic blogs. It's kind of what puts it above the typical 'author hates fanfic' wanks.

DA Any links where I can read about this? Google isn't giving me anything (European data protection might be hiding it) and I don't see anything about this in the other links.

I can try, but a lot of the links I knew about disappeared when Fandom Wank died.

SA
No worries. It's referenced enough in the followup post that I think I get the picture. I don't personally see "went after a cancer patient" when an author who's anti fanfic chose instead to donate a set of books to the charity drive instead of...writing a fanfic? Autographing a fanfic? That part isn't clear to me but it still didn't read to me the way the secret maker portrayed it.

https://wendymr.livejournal.com/193040.html

The comments in the posts goes into a bit of detail about the personal info being posted.

Her counter-arguments to pro-fanfic arguments are really weird, because those just aren't reasons I've heard people use much for WHY they wrote fanfic, although I've heard some as reasons for why it should be okay for them to do so. I've never heard anyone whine that the HAVE to write fanfic because they can't make up new characters and no one would read it if they wrote original stuff and this is they only way they can write things. My impression is that most people writing fanfic just have the urge to explore existing characters and worlds they love. They may love writing in and of itself, but that's not necessarily the primary motivation behind any given fanfic story.

I think what we have is an author approaching this as if it's all about trying to be authors and asking "But how does this make you an AUTHOR like me, dear?" and on the other side we have fanfic writers and readers who are like "We just want stories about these two dudes kissing."

Yeah, I think that's something a lot of people don't necessarily get - not everyone who writes fanfic does it because their end goal is to be a published writer. Not even the published writers I know who wrote fanfic necessarily regarded it that way. Fanfiction was just for fun, playing around in someone else's universe with someone else's characters. It's up for debate whether or not writing fanfic helps you improve as an author, but it was a moot point for most people.

SA as above - and I forgot that what makes Gabaldon's stance on fanfiction really hypocritical is that her hero is based on one of the companions from Doctor Who.

http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/doctor-who-actor-who-inspired-jamie-fraser-star-outlander

ayrt

Wow, thank you.

That is FUCKED UP omg.

Her lack of self-awareness is really kinda impressive.

I totally get why authors might feel uncomfortable about fafic of their own creations and don't want people to show it to them, and why they want to avoid it for professional reasons, but I think any published author who

A) ever wrote fanfiction (even if it stayed hidden in a notebook and no one else ever got to see it),

B) ever read fanfiction deliberately or wanted to, or

C) very clearly cribbed some characters and ideas from other media in such a blatant way,

should really just shut the hell up about fanfiction. At some point, they clearly felt the same draw towards fanworks that everyone else feels, but they buried this under a drive to be published authors and a bunch of flailing about copyright. Now there's a disconnect between why most people write and consume fanworks and why some authors think people do it, and the authors are getting on a soapbox to lecture people while totally missing the point.

Gabaldon doesn't have to be *comfortable* with people writing Outlander fanfic just because she based a character on a Doctor Who companion, but it should make her able to understand why people care about someone else's characters.

Not OP, but she's notoriously batshit in regards to fanfiction.

The more bad stuff I hear about Gabaldon, the more I love that supposedly embarrassing story about someone accidentally insulting her because she asked a stranger who didn't recognize her how she was liking the Outlander book she was reading and she...answered honestly.

LOL... do you have a link to this story?

I did find it and it's either better or worse than I remember because she sort of gets the "Well, I'm a published author" last word but also was the first to bring it up, so. The smugness.

https://thebibliosphere.tumblr.com/post/141515840411/i-keep-seeing-gif-sets-for-outlander-going-past-my

HAHAHAHA, that is amazing, thank you.

Everything I hear about this show, the books it's based on, and the author, just make me dislike it more, and I haven't even seen or read any of it. I was already predisposed to dislike it because I hate infidelity and forcible male dominance in my media, but I can see that I'm missing out on even less than I already assumed.

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