[ SECRET POST #3966 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3966 ⌋

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Comments

[erinptah]

I hate them too. And of course Tumblr tagging doesn't play well with slashes, so the smushnames are often the only findable ship tags, making them all the more popular...

In this case the -lo is Kylo Ren, the villain who's trying to be a Darth Vader knockoff.

[tabaqui]

Ah ha!
And omg, why would anyone ship that whiny, tantrum-throwing lame-o with Rey? She's so neat, and he's such a loser!

Fandom, you are so weird.

[erinptah]

A dark, brooding, loner villain who has intense one-on-one battles with his heroic rival? That's not weird, that's one of those dynamics that's always gonna pick up some shippers. It's as reliable as "two partners who have wildly different philosophies but are very competent together."

[(Anonymous)]

"Dark, brooding loner" is a pretty kind interpretation of Kylo's character. He's less "Batman" and more "Avatar Abridged's version of Zuko."

[tabaqui]

He's not 'dark' or 'brooding' - he's a spoiled brat who trashes his room when he doesn't get his way. WOW did that character annoy the hell out of me.

People 'ship some weird stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

Villain/hero ships, regardless of how cool or uncool either character is, are incredibly common. Half of Reylo shippers seem to like it because they interpret him as cooler than he seems to be in canon, and half seem to like it because he seems like a brat. I find nothing about it at all surprising.

[erinptah]

Eh, I don't see "dark/brooding" and "spoiled/annoying" as mutually exclusive.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a certain kind of mysterious menace implied by "brooding" that's hard to pull off when you 're having a screaming tantrum. It's why no one refers to fussy two-year olds as brooding.

[(Anonymous)]

Kylo has more of a "phantom menace," if you will.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually associate "brooding" with whiny, gloomy, dramatic characters who are overly fond of getting wrapped up in their own self-centered thoughts. Not at all mysterious or menacing.

[(Anonymous)]

It's cool if that's what you do, but it's not what the term actually means in a literary sense. Self-centered and dramatic? Sure, but they're dignified about it. You're mixing up your romantic heros with your emo kids.

[(Anonymous)]

Right, but is it reasonable to assume that everyone in fandom is using it in the literary sense?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure most of them are? Fanon Kylo is pretty much a cross between Zuko and Angel.

[(Anonymous)]

Canon Kylo is a cross between Angelus and JD from Scrubs.

[(Anonymous)]

Both of those characters are dorks...

[(Anonymous)]

And yet they both have more chill than Kylo. Even Zuko has more chill than Kylo Ren. Think on that and despair.

[(Anonymous)]

That has nothing to do with the point I'm trying to make. The anon I was replying to claimed that Kylo's fans view him as dignified and romantic in his broodiness, and then said the fans viewed him as a cross between two brooding characters who are dorks. Something doesn't add up.

[erinptah]

I can picture a sulky teenager as "brooding" without being menacing. The scenes where Kylo is locked in a dark room angsting to himself with Vader's helmet are definitely broody.

You can brood in one part of a film and throw a tantrum in another part.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, hero/villain dynamics always get me. And for Rey and Kylo, she's not all Light and he's pretty bad at being Dark. They have this weird connection that I find fascinating.

(Reading through the comments these past two days has been a hoot because, jeez, people just do not get Kylo's character at all.)