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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-11-26 04:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3980 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3980 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Big Family Cooking Showdown]


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[Michael Fassbender/Alicia Vikander]


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[Team Fourstar/Dragon Ball Z Abridged]


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[Nurarihyon no Mago]


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[Candice Swanepoel (Victoria's Secret)]


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(Stranger Things, season 2)


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[Christian Bale]















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Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

[personal profile] viv_vivillon 2017-11-26 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I doubt anyone who isn't a troll is saying all creative work should be free but as someone whose entire income comes from creative work, I 100% disagree that creative stuff should be free.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm one of the people who was arguing against them at first, and I don't think they're trolls. I think it's actually a genuinely interesting idea, if unworkable in our current society. What about if you were otherwise financially stable? Would you mind your work being "free" then? Or how about if the government paid you a stipend to create works for the public?
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Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

[personal profile] viv_vivillon 2017-11-26 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's doubtful that I'd be paid a fee for my particular field. If we lived in a society where all my housing, bills, and a basic income was given to me, then yes, I would probably create things just for the enjoyment of it. But we don't and most likely never will.

But most creative endeavours require time, skill, and materials, just like woodworking or building a house. I don't see why creators should be expected to give those things away.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
So, only people well off by other means should be able spend a significant amount of time creating things? Not so hot on what sounds like a minimum wage government stipend situation, either, unless we go full communism and implement that to every other profession, too.

I'm someone else who makes all my income from creative work, and I don't get why anyone even has the gall to suggest I should work for free or I'm not working "for the right reasons". I don't go to a restaurant and expect to be served for free, either. My job is not a hobby, and I can't decide to just not show up at work because I don't feel like it, unlike the hobbyists that the possibly-not-trolls from yesterday paraded around as counter-arguments.

My very limited lifetime isn't worth less than someone working a non-creative job, and I should be compensated for it just the same. (As long as I can keep the quality of my work up to par to justify it, which many hobbyists doing similar things on their free time can't.)

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Presumably your job started as a hobby, though. And plenty of hobbyists create quality work. What makes yours special?

DA

(Anonymous) 2017-11-26 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that I've brought my skill up to a level where people are willing to throw money at my head for it.

Re: Should creative endeavours ever be bought or sold?

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
If there are plenty of hobbyists creating quality work for free, then you should be happy to just consume the work of those hobbyists if you don't want to pay artists for their effort, and not consume work produced for pay.

SA

(Anonymous) 2017-11-27 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
A decade of doing it as a hobby, a relevant Master's degree, and five years of industry experience as a full-time job. I'm at a very different place than where I started, and my student works _are_ freely available, not that they're of interest to anyone anymore.

Level of commitment, basically.