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[ SECRET POST #3987 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3987 ⌋

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[Yuri on Ice]

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[Book Series: The Temeraire Novels by Naomi Novik]

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[Orphan Black]

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[South Park]

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[Stranger Things]

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[Smallville]

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[Iron Fist, Joy/Danny]

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I think sci-fi & fantasy books are approximately 1000% more interesting and rewarding than SFF movies or TV shows. But fandom really seems to center around movies & TV in general.

Millennials are too lazy and/or attached to their phone to actually read.

0/10

You do you, but I've seen/heard this over and over.

So have I and it's always eyerollingly tedious clickbait, hence the 0/10.

No, I've actually had such interactions with/responses from 20-somethings.

Disagree, but I think the profit driven set up of many popular websites and apps will have a long term negative impact on mental health. Ethics are woefully ignored in our tech based society and our brains aren’t meant to process this much information on a regular basis.

Ultimately, it's fundamentally a problem of capitalism - albeit one that's accelerated and driven forward by technological advancement.

The fundamental deal is that, if you choose to build systems that optimize for return on investment and efficiency, as we have done, that's exactly what they're going to optimize for. And if that means zeroing in on all of the irrational lizard-brain behaviors in humanity and ruthlessly exploiting them over and over, that's what we're going to do. And that's definitely true in apps and media, but just as true in everything else.

The people are pretty, and without a narrator telling you straight up that someone is either irredeemable or flawless, or has chemistry with this character but not that one, there's more opportunity for people to have their own theories and interpretations.

I don't understand this comment. Are you seriously implying that novels have no ambiguity or depth? Because, uh...

nayrt - I know, right? It's such a weird critique to make that sounds like it's coming from someone who's never actually read a novel.

I read many books and am very smart. <- sarcasm.

I'm super tired and not making much sense. I do read more than my eyes like me to, but I'm also a visual person and I like to see things and hear soundtracks just as much, so I'm not into snubbing one for the other. Which, yes. I totally did the thing I just said I don't like doing... because they did it first and I'm bored.

No. Every media type has weaknesses and strengths. A skilled writer who has a good editor might avoid using a more heavy-handed style of narration, but we're still only allowed to observe the characters from the words they write. In visual media, we can see the same story, but the narrator is usually absent. I'm not saying that creator bias doesn't play a role in film and television, but I can choose to glance across a screen some of the time and focus my attention away from the favorite if I want. I can interpret a facial expression for myself without being told it's one thing or another.

Honestly, considering the complexity of many great novels, I think you're being a little arbitrary about this, but you do you.

No, I get what they mean. For a lot of sci fi and fantasy works, there's more going on in the background of shows/movies than there is in books.

And yeah, books tend to tell you exactly what a character is thinking.

What was going through Rey's head when she decided not to sell BB-8? Was she being compassionate? According to the novelization, she was sure if the famous tightwad was willing to give her that much for one little droid, someone else might pay her a bunch more. And ok sure you can maybe play around with that and ask why she was so cold then, but you can't outright say she was being compassionate.

Why do you think books straight up tell you that "someone is either irredeemable or flawless"? Well written ones don't. But even if they did, since when did that ever stop people from shipping or having their own theories or interpretations?

It doesn't stop people from participating in fandom stuff, but it can be a limitation of the media type - that's my opinion. It's definitely not the only factor, seeing as books aren't as well-promoted and a movie or series will have an opening or air date so more people will be watching it and discussing it at the same time.

I don't always mind reading books that feature very one-note characters when the world-building aspects and the plot are interesting, which I find a lot in SF/Fantasy novels in particular. It's interesting to see those characters played by actors who can bring something more to the role. It happens the other way around too, that an actor would be very flat where the character wasn't. Again, it's just an opinion.

I vote none of them. The most unconventional and surprising sci-fi and fantasy tends to crop up in the most democratic platform available, and right now, that's the Internet.

I'm not sure I agree but I'm kind of curious what examples you have in mind here.

My prime example of a story you would never find outside of the Internet is Indefensible Positions. That doesn't necessarily make it good, but I give fantasy in particular a lot of credit for trying something new.

It's kind of apples and oranges. SFF fandom is generally more diffuse, with people tending to congregate around specific sub-genres.

I don't know about interesting or rewarding, but the most active and visible segments of fandom definitely skew towards visual media (including comics, as well as movies and TV). I think it helps that people who might not bother to pick up an SF&F book because they think those are only for nerds might still watch SF&F on TV because it's right in front of them, or go to SF&F movies because they often look like fun action movies. There's also the fact that it's easier to cosplay characters from a visual medium (people do design original costumes to cosplay book characters, which is neat, but they usually have to do a lot of explaining).

It was a little funny watching people who had been running SF&F cons for years who had always kind of looked down on things that weren't books, including Star Wars and Star Trek, suddenly get steamrolled over by hordes of new fans who want to talk about everything else.

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