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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-03 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3987 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3987 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Yuri on Ice]


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[Book Series: The Temeraire Novels by Naomi Novik]


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[Orphan Black]


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[South Park]


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[Stranger Things]


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[Smallville]


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[Iron Fist, Joy/Danny]














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Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The people are pretty, and without a narrator telling you straight up that someone is either irredeemable or flawless, or has chemistry with this character but not that one, there's more opportunity for people to have their own theories and interpretations.
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Re: fandom confessions

[personal profile] ketita 2017-12-03 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand this comment. Are you seriously implying that novels have no ambiguity or depth? Because, uh...

Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt - I know, right? It's such a weird critique to make that sounds like it's coming from someone who's never actually read a novel.

Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I read many books and am very smart. <- sarcasm.

I'm super tired and not making much sense. I do read more than my eyes like me to, but I'm also a visual person and I like to see things and hear soundtracks just as much, so I'm not into snubbing one for the other. Which, yes. I totally did the thing I just said I don't like doing... because they did it first and I'm bored.

Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Every media type has weaknesses and strengths. A skilled writer who has a good editor might avoid using a more heavy-handed style of narration, but we're still only allowed to observe the characters from the words they write. In visual media, we can see the same story, but the narrator is usually absent. I'm not saying that creator bias doesn't play a role in film and television, but I can choose to glance across a screen some of the time and focus my attention away from the favorite if I want. I can interpret a facial expression for myself without being told it's one thing or another.
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Re: fandom confessions

[personal profile] ketita 2017-12-03 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, considering the complexity of many great novels, I think you're being a little arbitrary about this, but you do you.

Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) 2017-12-04 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
No, I get what they mean. For a lot of sci fi and fantasy works, there's more going on in the background of shows/movies than there is in books.

And yeah, books tend to tell you exactly what a character is thinking.

What was going through Rey's head when she decided not to sell BB-8? Was she being compassionate? According to the novelization, she was sure if the famous tightwad was willing to give her that much for one little droid, someone else might pay her a bunch more. And ok sure you can maybe play around with that and ask why she was so cold then, but you can't outright say she was being compassionate.

Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do you think books straight up tell you that "someone is either irredeemable or flawless"? Well written ones don't. But even if they did, since when did that ever stop people from shipping or having their own theories or interpretations?

Re: fandom confessions

(Anonymous) 2017-12-03 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't stop people from participating in fandom stuff, but it can be a limitation of the media type - that's my opinion. It's definitely not the only factor, seeing as books aren't as well-promoted and a movie or series will have an opening or air date so more people will be watching it and discussing it at the same time.

I don't always mind reading books that feature very one-note characters when the world-building aspects and the plot are interesting, which I find a lot in SF/Fantasy novels in particular. It's interesting to see those characters played by actors who can bring something more to the role. It happens the other way around too, that an actor would be very flat where the character wasn't. Again, it's just an opinion.