[ SECRET POST #3995 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3995 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Imagine Dragons]


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03.
[Stranger Things]


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04.
[Richard Hammond from Top Gear]


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05.
[MCU Steve Rogers]


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06.
[The Punisher]


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07.
[Jennifer Lawrence]


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08.
[Josh Brolin]


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[Left: Brian Molko of Placebo / Right: David Bowie]










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Comments

[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/Es7JLNB.png
[MCU Steve Rogers]

[(Anonymous)]

Canonically he is very intelligent. He was so before the serum and that enhanced it. He also has a photographic memory.

[(Anonymous)]

They may *say* it, but they don't show it.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a well-supported headcanon but god bless you

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes zeal for causes and self-sacrificial behavior can be confused with stupity, and cynicism, selfishness, and lack of emotional vulnerability as intelligence, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

^this x 100

[(Anonymous)]

So the best people are zealots with martyr complexes? Sounds more like you're describing a cult leader or a suicide bomber than Captain America, nonny.

[(Anonymous)]

And sometimes zeal is just because you aren't at all educated in the politics of the situation.

[(Anonymous)]

+100000000

This is not always the case, but in Steve's case I think it is. He's smart; he just lacks guile. He's incredibly kind and exceptionally straight forward, and neither of those things equals stupid.

[(Anonymous)]

this may be unsupported by canon but I feel the same way. I like the character, I just don't find him attractive...

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say he does Very Stupid Things For Plot Reasons at marginally lower rates than most of his co-stars, but he doesn't get to say meaningless nerdgasm science babble or have plot-convenient successful mind battles, so he gets less of a pass for it than everyone else. It all depends on what you pay attention to.

[(Anonymous)]

Moooooom, anon is shit talking Cap!

[kaijinscendre]

I'll be mom. Sweetie, Captain America would support their free speech to bad mouth him.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, that's how he comes across to me too. It doesn't help that he's said to be very intelligent when he's just a one track guy, forever.

[(Anonymous)]

But is he like trump?

[(Anonymous)]

Harassing everyone, but white, middle aged guys, you mean?

[(Anonymous)]

Trump's one of those Mensa guys. He said so.

I disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Captain America: The First Avenger showed his intelligence pretty well. But he also has a temper that he absolutely acts on, which sometimes means stupid or rash decisions. Also, from that point on, the actor is playing unknowledgeable about a lot of things (since Steve missed like 70 years of stuff). Unknowledgeable is not the same as unintelligent, though sometimes they are equated. I honestly think every single Avenger has made some really stupid decisions that aren't always presented that way in the narrative and so sometimes I'm a little skeptical of how they indicate intelligence.

Re: I disagree.

[tabaqui]

All of this.
(But then - Cap, Bucky, and the rest are MY TEAM 4EVAH!! so i'm a little biased.)

Re: I disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

+1. Cap's a good planner, both short and long term, and quick to adapt under pressure. But he is way too easily goaded into a dumb fight (see Batroc) and if he loses his temper or gets stubborn in he does stupid things (90% of Civil War).

Re: I disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the other issue is that Steve's the youngest Avenger by a lot. He's supposed to be what? 24 when the plane went down? So a lot of the stuff that he does that comes off as kind of dumb (like the easily goaded thing mentioned up thread) is the kind of stuff that wouldn't seem that out of place if the people around Cap didn't expect him to act twice his age.

Re: I disagree.

[(Anonymous)]

He handled having the entire SHIELD rug pulled out from under him quite well in Winter Soldier, pulling genuinely clever moves like hiding the USB in the vending machine before being debriefed. And he had only been out of the ice for a few years at that point. The whole film has an espionage undertone so stuff like that stands out, but I was really impressed by how smart everyone in it was. Especially since the last MCU installment I'd seen up to that point was IM3, one of the worst offenders of the Smart Character Acts Dumb for Plot Convenience trope.

[(Anonymous)]

Cap's supposed to be a master tactician, js

[(Anonymous)]

Too bad he's written to have not even the barest grasp of tactics.

[(Anonymous)]

"Less smart" than whom?