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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-26 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4041 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4041 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia; linked for illustrated? nudity / OP warned for NSFW]


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11. [SPOILER for Stranger Things, season 2]



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12. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]



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[personal profile] morieris 2018-01-27 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not surprised, the backlash had to start, and since this story wasn't about him being a violent rapist, everyone thinks it's okay that this happened and the backlash started with this.

It's like the anon in the other thread said, everyone's willing to kill rapists (and rightfully so), but no one's willing to fix underlying problems of coercion or the culture we live in where (not necessarily in this instance, I admit) women go along and do things they may not like because they fear someone might get violent with them if they resist.
Edited 2018-01-27 00:04 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
because they fear someone might get violent with them if they resist

I don't think that was an issue in this case.

I'm genuinely puzzled as to why "Grace" went along with it tbh.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have an answer but I'm also not sure to what extent - if any - you can offer that as an exculpation for Ansari.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
He doesn't need "exculpation" because he's not guilty of anything but being an asshole.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
IMO, it's bad for people to be assholes, even if there are celebrities, and it's good to talk about the ways in which our culture abets and accepts people being assholes. And that includes Aziz Ansari being an asshole in this instance.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if we're taking things to a cultural level, I think you could make a case that callout culture isn't exactly healthy or productive, either. In fact, it's a little assholish itself, isn't it?

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure "callout culture" is the precise right phrase, but sure, I can see what you're saying.

But the thing is, you can make all kinds of reasonable criticisms of the ways in which this case was publicized - and in fact, people have absolutely done that - while also having the conversation about not being a dick all the time. I don't see how criticizing the piece is opposed to having the conversation about normalized dickishness and expectations and communications.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough.