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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-07 05:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #549 ]


⌈ Secret Post #549 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] rktikfox.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
109. Uh...wow...mind expanding on why you hate Yu Yu Hakusho so much?! :/

151. DO WANT. WHERE CAN I READ THIS?! xD

Re: 155

[identity profile] kiokushitakaa.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not strong enough to think I'm the only one who can get me out of my problems. I guess that's why it doesn't make sense to you? You seem to be a strong person who doesn't need someone else to help you, but I admit I'm still pretty weak and I need someone to throw me a lifeline here and there. :)

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
102. Games don't have to be about gameplay.

112. People have been getting morals from fictional stories since forever. That was the whole point of things like Aesop's Fables. Then there's biblical stories, which people still take messages from. There's no shame in taking something true away from something fictional, especially because chances are you only took something away because whatever you were engaging with resonated with something true in you.

129. I agree with you. Female characters in Pixar movies don't do very much, to boot, exempting Dory.

145. Which fandom? We can't help if we don't know the fandom.

162. I hate Nomura because he's the creative head of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII (or at least he was last time I checked). Up until then, I quite liked what he came up with.

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[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, I'm not exactly sure what you're asking about, but I'll try to explain...what I'm talking about here is the use of marked and unmarked categories in classifying people. "Unmarked" people are considered "normal," and their gender/race/sexuality/etc goes unquestioned. It isn't used to define them as a person. But people in the "marked" category are often thought of or treated as more "X" (where X is any of the following: female, non-white, queer, disabled, the list goes on) than they are "human."

I'm trying not to get too deep into the philosophy and politics of it, though, because uh, [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets is not the place. Also, I have a headache right now. :/ So this probably isn't very clear.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Not all animated features are created equal.

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[identity profile] aditou.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Two episodes, huh? I have to say that isn't a very good basis for liking or disliking any series, particularly one with over one hundred episodes total.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Characters in fiction are just a medium to tell a story. Their sex is not important as in the end they’re only an extension of the narrative intention. Both males and females have no real personalities, they're just used as part of a bigger message; their existence is tied to that of the plot or the atmosphere. That's what I meant, you’re complaining about ultimately meaningless literary definitions.

(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
No way was I explaining that first bit to your face, I could barely send it to the person I sent it to to see if it made sense or not. I hope it helps kill some of your wtf about it.

Also, perfect icon for that post.

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[identity profile] likeatruck.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
153 - Now that you mention it, that's a pretty accurate comparison.
163 - OH GOD. YAOI POWER. THINK OF THE EUPHEMISMS.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm a woman and I demand a sandwich. :(

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[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think we have pretty diametrically opposed viewpoints of how to deal with sexism. Yours is "ignore it, because it doesn't matter anyway and will just go away soon, because there actually isn't that much to begin with." Mine is "it runs deep and we can do a lot of different things to oppose it."

Probably not much use arguing more.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just shit.

Genkai is such a derivative character, too.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
That and the fact the men are too fucking lazy to make their own goddamn sandwiches. No one else will do it.

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[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That's, uh, one extremely abstract way of looking at it.

But it is most definitely not the only way or the "one true correct" way.

One thing I will say: if this is true, what is "the narrative intention"? And what does the consistent valuing of males over females as human beings say about it?

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you understand, fellow anon? Female leads struggle in the male leads' world!

brb being oppressed

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Get off your damn high horse, fellow anon. Fact is, most are male and it's getting repetitive.

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[identity profile] fandaban.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I applaud you. That was an excellent way to communicate your point.

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[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
But can I at least wear shoes while making them? And not be pregnant? :'(

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[identity profile] alterz.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I remember it! Also, I agree :D

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
No worries, you do!

*iz ttly anonymous*

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Usually it takes me 04 episodes to hate a series.

GO FOR THE GOAL.

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[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I only feel that way because I'm pretty sure I've got nobody in real life that I know I can depend on. I've got no choice except to be there for myself.

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Ants are mostly female with only a few males. This was not the way the movie portrayed it.

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost didn't believe it, and actually had to do a search on sci-fi, and sure enough it's there. I've been meaning to watch the series.

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[identity profile] aditou.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
...and those girls are awesome! San especially~

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