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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-29 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #4044 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4044 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
You clearly don't understand what queer baiting is. Queer baiting doesn't just mean subtext writing fumble that has slash potential. Queer baiting is toying with fans expectations by making false promises of LGBT relationships, enticing fans by using wordplay, making their actors play it up, write characters that are deliberately coded as LGBT, only to go lolhet at the end. I'll take a canon that has a gay character and manages to queerbait: Riverdale.

The Betty/Veronica kiss was meant nothing more to entice and titulate. They play it up further by having the actresses say stuff such as beronica forever, tease at it, only to double down on fans asking on it possible happening by saying "lol what?? Girls loving each other romantically??? That's weird they're just gals being pals but we'll continue to tease you and profit off you beronica fans for views." <--- THAT'S QUEERBAITING

Kevin is a side character and is gay. That's it. That's his whole character a gay stereotype best friend. That's NOT queerbaiting yet you expect me to be happy with scraps of representation so that makes any other queerbaiting they do on the show okay? Nah fuck off mate. The problem is the shoemakers who do this shit. Not LGBT people or slash fans who want significant gay relationships.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
I just wanted to say that I don't think that the Riverdale instance was intentional / cynical

I mean, it still absolutely happened, and that's something that's absolutely on them, but

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
how was it not intentional. That was their selling point for the pilot. The script writings that are floating around for the first episode show that it was meant to bait. They STILL promote the fuck out and of beronica in addition to bughead and beronica (and even random shit like barchie and jeronica while convienently leaving out the other gay half - Jarchie)

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
The actresses stuff I don't think was intentional.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
normally I would agree but given how social media heavy the show is (and other shows are becoming in general) I don't doubt the producers tell them to encourage it unless addressed directly on. They need to promo their show somehow.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds like they're very open about it just being fanservice. That's not queerbaiting, it's the opposite. If they said all along that Beronica wasn't going to be canon and fans still expect it to be, the fans are queerbaiting themselves.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

They 100% were not good at maintaining that distinction, especially early on in the series

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Riverdale: let's make two girls make out and promote the fuck out of it before out pilot even premieres all for views
You: that's not queer baiting

(Anonymous) 2018-01-30 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
A-FUCKING-MEN.