[ SECRET POST #4053 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4053 ⌋

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Comments

[cbrachyrhynchos]

It's business as usual for big-budget Hollywood franchise films to keep the gay ambiguous or safely off-screen. See also: Ghostbusters, Wonder Woman, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor: Ragnarok, and Star Wars: Episode XIII.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, but I also think there's a decidedly insidious nuance to JKR/Fantastic Beasts 2's attitude to this. WW and Thor as specific examples - the sexuality of the characters was 'word of God', outside of the film's canon, or subtext endorsed by cast and crew. It was never a selling point and not something the creators proudly toted out as a way of garnering... publicity, or 'diversity points', something.

I don't know, it just feels different to me, comparing subtext vs something that the creator loudly and vocally insisted was a thing, and then whoops, as soon as it's a big film for an international market, somewhat cowardly backtracking on again.

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[cbrachyrhynchos]

I don't know, WW and Valkyrie are among the most notable bi women from the big two comics publishers. Deadpool as well is widely acknowledged to be pansexual in comics, but that ended up interpreted through a number of jokes and a credits scene. I think MacKinnon is on the record as packing as much lesbian coding as she could get away with into Holtzman but the studio put brakes on that. It's enough of a pattern to note that there's a pretty clear double-standard between print and cinema going on.

I read Rowling's tweets (including the Depp one) as likely supporting a studio or distributor mandate.

[(Anonymous)]

What was the ambiguous/off screen gay from GotG? Was it a comic thing that got left out?

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Gunn announced that there was an LGBTQ character in the film and then ended up backpedaling hard on that announcement. A couple of side characters are gay or trans if you dig deep enough in the comics.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah. I know nothing of the comics so I was wondering if the movies had left something out.

That sucks though. Though personally I got pretty big 'casual relationship' vibes between Yondu and Kraglin, so I was wondering if it was something blatant like that.