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⌈ Secret Post #4053 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'd be happy about it, too, and it would be cool. Maybe there's still room for it to happen. I don't know, because I don't keep up with the HP world anymore. Stopped caring a long time ago.

But even if it happens, some self-righteous asshole will mount their high horse and piss all over it no matter how it's done. Classic large fandom attention whoring. Which is where I'm struggling to see the point in even trying to please people anymore. Way I see it, people don't even deserve to be pleased.

The only point I ever agreed on in this whole years long diatribe is that Dumbledore, having no unmistakable indication one way or another with his sexual orientation, doesn't really count as gay representation. It's more like random trivia that does fuck all for the world of Harry Potter as a whole. Even so, iirc, I thought JKR revealed his sexuality only because they were trying to arbitrarily give him a female love interest in the movies, not because she was fishing for PC brownie points? I could be wrong, though. Again, stopped keeping track long ago.

[(Anonymous)]

But even if it happens, some self-righteous asshole will mount their high horse and piss all over it no matter how it's done.

Ergo, they shouldn't do it?

Which is where I'm struggling to see the point in even trying to please people anymore. Way I see it, people don't even deserve to be pleased.

Well, first of all, I don't see why it even needs to be about pleasing people. It's also about doing the right thing. Second, even setting that aside, this still seems kind of over-the-top. Some people won't be pleased, therefore fuck everybody?

Like, yeah, some people will disagree, like they do about literally everything that's ever happened in the entire history of the world. Why would you expect something to be universally beloved? Nothing, ever, in the history of the world, has been universally beloved. There has been some equivalent of a person in the fandom willing to piss all over it for literally everything in history. I don't think that's a reasonable expectation.

[(Anonymous)]

Ergo, they shouldn't do it?

Didn't say that. Didn't even imply it. Don't put words in my mouth.

It's also about doing the right thing.

This is true. But here's the thing: how would they do it? How does one simply be gay to the satisfaction of an audience looking to a gay character to be gay? I think that's a legitimate question. What is "good" representation of a gay character? What is a "good" portrayal? And how is it relevant to the story?

You're the one choosing to believe that I think they shouldn't even try, which I never said. I did ask why should they bother trying to please people, though, and I stand by that.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

What is the meaningful difference between not trying to explicitly represent a gay character, and not trying to please people who want to see a gay character represented?

[(Anonymous)]

People have standards about how gay people are represented. And I'm struggling to see how they can bring it up while staying true to Dumbledore's character and the narrative. I'm not saying they shouldn't try, though. I just need a hand seeing how.

I'm struggling to see how they can work his sexual orientation into the narrative, because I, as well as many other folks, saw zero indication one way or the other in Books 1-7, and the revelation of Dumbledore's sexual orientation was purely a "word of God" moment for some of us. That's the source material I'm working with, not any supplementary material. Does that make sense?