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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-02 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4107 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4107 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
I was a police officer for four years. That's not "legit pedophilia" or child porn, in the legal, actionable sense of the words. You have a right to feel squicked and every right to personally avoid that content, but AO3 isn't doing anything criminal or even wrong to not remove content that doesn't technically breach its TOS.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

lmao a police officer on FS? Nice lie

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
DA

...nice lie?
got any proof?

I swear, if I had a nickel for every time someone jumped to a conclusion on this thread...
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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2018-04-03 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, there are at least three of us on FS (two former and one still active). I'm a former member of the German police force and left after four years of being part of the riot squad.

So yes, legally, the ayrt is right. Your personal moral opinions may be different, but posting underage fic on AO3 is still not illegal. Because it's fiction. No real, actual child got harmed.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody even argued about the legality, just that this garbage: https://archiveofourown.org/users/brbgettingwine/pseuds/brbgettingwine should not be allowed to be posted. It's crossing a line. But everyone here is suffering PTSD from antis or some shit that they oppose any "censorship" to the point of actively in favor of this. And even arguing that this isn't stemming from a perverse pedophilic desire. I'm sorry, but writing fiction of actual fucking child actors getting raped by their co-star is fucked
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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2018-04-03 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, to me those fics are certainly in bad taste, and I wouldn't want to read them. I also wouldn't want any overeager interviewer showing this to the real actors.

But they are properly tagged and easy to avoid, they call themselves trash, and really, taking them in any way serious would give them more interest than they deserve.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
Or they could just, y'know, be deleted for crossing an obvious line. But God forbid doing that, then we'll something something slippery slope argument. Fuck that, just delete child RPF, it ain't hard.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Or you could learn to filter and scroll? Just because it crosses your line doesn't mean no one should ever post it ever.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are you supporting its existence? Like, seriously?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Too young to remember strikethrough I see.

The fact that it's a victimless crime and would take resources away from honest to god victims is all I need, but other reasons have been spelled out for you in this very thread.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
dude you've called it child porn and ayrt quoted the legit pedo line you spouted. and the legit stuff IS illegal, and dangerous, and hurts real people. but fanfic?? come on

look i get that this really really bothers you. and i totally think that your time would be better spent supporting real groups that help real kids instead of whining on f!s about how terrible ao3 is for letting squicky fanfic stay up

Here's a link to BACA (the Bikers Against Child Abuse), so you can find the nearest chapter to help out with or donate to: http://bacaworld.org/chapters/
Here's a link to the Polaris Project (which is against human trafficking, where a lot of child sexual abuse happens): https://polarisproject.org/
Here's a link to Girls Not Brides (which is fighting to end child marriage globally): https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/
Heck, here's the link to UNICEF's volunteer page! https://www.unicefusa.org/supporters/volunteers

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Welp, if it's not child porn in the legal sense, it's okay to

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
fap to kids played by child actors. I'm a little disappointed to see a supposed cop be so flippant about this. Little concerning.

(fucking F!S keeps flipping out and posting comments before I finish them)

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Writing fic about underaged characters having sex =/= fapping to kids played by child actors. It's not that deep.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Except it does, perv.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
You're feeling very incensed about this, anon. Go back to your anti friends.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not an anti, I fucking hate antis, they're the scourge of fandom. But your assumption that I am shows a clear bias here. Here, read these and try to defend their existence: https://archiveofourown.org/users/brbgettingwine/pseuds/brbgettingwine

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Well no, we're not going to read it, which is what you should have done anyway: exercise your right to not have anything to do with it.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT
The difference between antis and the people who have squicks is that people who have squicks know that a) fiction is NOT reality and b) if there are things that trigger them, stay away from them.

Some of those people might be wanking off to fictional kids in their free time, but some writers/artists might be doing it to cope, might be creating to help someone cope, or just want to have a good time playing around with fictional characters. Some of them might even be minors. I'm not going to judge these people just because they did something I find gross, not when no one got hurt because it's all fiction.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I figured it out. You're the author of that fic! You're trying to use reverse psychology to get other people to read it! Nice try, anon.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-04 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Edward Elric is played by an adult. He's the child from the secret itself.