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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-12 07:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #4117 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4117 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-13 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
do people in Tolkien fandom actually not know that Tolkien's creation story is meant to be Christianity But In My Fantasy World? Melkor is Satan. Period full stop. If Tolkien's writings didn't get across that Melkor is the original evil, the fallen Lucifer, the one who is meant to be bad for bad's sake and not actually sympathetic because heaven forbid you sympathize with the devil...then I just don't know what to say.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-13 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Except it's entirely possible to sympathize with Lucifer's motivations in Christian lore as well, and I think Tolkien was sophisticated enough to recognize that too. Besides which he objected to straight analogues to Christianity. He and C.S. Lewis did have quite a disagreement about that, after all.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-13 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
+1. It's not like he hadn't read Milton!

(Anonymous) 2018-04-13 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
This response shows a lot of historical ignorance. There's a surprising amount of sympathy for Lucifer within Christianity. There's Paradise Lost which features Lucifer as technically the protagonist. And there have been some very flattering sculptures and art created of him. There's also an old surviving pagan religion in parts of the middle east that feature a being who is analogous to Lucifer who falls then becomes redeemed later on. I don't even subscribe to an Abrahamic religion and I know this.