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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-21 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4126 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4126 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-21 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Steve stans and Tony stans are equally annoying.

The fact that the subset of Tony stans who a) write fic b) specifically about the conflict in CW and c) post on AO3 are, at most, more prolific and quite possibly are just more inclined to tag their fic doesn't change that. Hell, in reasonable fannish circles, tagging your partisan fic so people who are in the other camp know what it is and can avoid it is considered good fan behaviour.
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-04-22 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, yeah I'm seriously wondering why OP is complaining? And I say this as someone firmly on the Anti-Tony Train. I love it when people tag their fic like this. Maybe Tony Stans are just more conscientious about the fandom etiquette that says you should tag your Team fic?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
They certainly seem more petty to go out of their way to write that shit.

Black Panther stan here btw, don't care for either Tony or Cap. But making fic that bashes a character you dislike or elevates a character you like is just so childish and petty.
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[personal profile] silverr 2018-04-22 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
But making fic that bashes a character you dislike is just so childish and petty.

AGREED!

But making fic that elevates a character you like is just so childish and petty.

Can't agree. This is the motivation for most fanfic, isn't it?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I should clarify by the second part, I mean elevates a character at the specific expense of another. Not quite the same as outright bashfic, it's a subtler variation.
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[personal profile] silverr 2018-04-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay, I see your point, and you/re right. The bashfics generally are, "Look at how shitty Character A is compared to the shining paragon that is Character B!"

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but writing Team Steve or Team Tony fic isn't necessarily elevating one character at the expense of another. It's writing a fic with a narrative that agrees with one side of an in-universe conflict over the other, which is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. It's functionally no different than writing any other fic where one side is presented as the protagonists and the other as the antagonists. It only even merits a tag because it's a contentious topic in fandom, and the sort of thing that's not going to be enjoyable to someone who's passionately on the other side of the conflict, and may not be enjoyable to everyone who's neutral.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't know, I don't read them. Still seems petty to do in general.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Must be pretty tedious in your neck of the woods if no one ever takes sides in conflicts that are clearly designed for side-taking.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, weirdly defensive anon.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
What a petty response.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, weirdly defensive anon.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Tbh, I'm an avid reader of Team Iron Man fic and I'd say at least half of the stories dip their toes (or dive headfirst) into the bashing pool. That's how I like them, so it's fine with me, but I can understand why others would find it irritating.

(What I don't understand is why they can't simply avoid fics with that tag if they dislike them so much, but that's a different subject.)