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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-05-17 05:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #4152 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4152 ⌋

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[Mercedes Lackey]


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[Inspector Javert]


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[DJ Khaled and his wife Nicole Tuck]


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[Scarlett Johansson at the Met Gala]


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[John Mulaney]


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[Disney's Sword in the Stone]








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(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
My theory is because of the stereotype thar Americans aren't bothered to investigate a culture other than their own.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
DA

As a non-American, our media is constantly flooded with news on what's happening in America and fictional shows set in your country. It's a bit annoying when you learn that it's always been a one-way dumping of information, and these people I know all of this useless shit about are shocked that my people aren't churning our butter by hand and sleeping in dirt huts or something. Global learning is highly emphasised in our education system, and hearing that we prioritise learning about people who didn't think it was important to learn about us... well. It doesn't give us warm feelings.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Woah woah woah. A couple things, here.

1. You're the one consuming American media, and that's your choice. Since you consume it, you may know more about American culture. But if you're not consuming Thai media, South African media, Peruvian media, and media for every other country out there, then I don't see your point. There are hundreds of countries out there, and Americans are no more obligated to watch foreign media than you are. And if it isn't even readily available in the US, like American media is readily available in your country, then why are you blaming Americans for not watching it?

2. Calling bullshit on your second point. There's a lot to be critiqued about American education, but especially depending on the state or even school district, American schools can absolutely emphasize global learning. Furthermore, American colleges dominate charts for higher education, and you'll find virtually any liberal arts school emphasizes "global learning".

While your average American is probably not extremely well-versed in foreign affairs, your average person in any country is probably not well-versed in the world outside his or her own daily life - and so I really don't believe people in your country are so much more worldly beyond what is necessitated by popular media, business, and immediate geography. At any rate, if America dominates your media, it's not because Americans are obsessed with themselves so much as it is they are the top global superpower in terms of economy and military, without mentioning that they are a mass exporter of popular culture on a global scale. I really doubt you're hearing as much in your education system about Nepal or somewhere as you are about the US.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
they are the top global superpower in terms of economy and military,

Lol no, that's China. And how many Chinese people do you think can name the US president compared to how many US people can name the Chinese president? Plus, good US colleges are really good, especially for postgrad stuff, but that's a very small percentage of the US population. For undergrad learning, US students are generally considered about 2 years behind anyone else, which is why you have so much general education. The US entertainment industry is huge and aggressively exported - I don't know about AYRT but I don't blame people in the US for not watching non-US shows, but I do blame people in the US for thinking this is just some natural state of affairs because the US is so amaaaaaazing.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

You don't sound like you know very much about China at all, which makes you a poor spokesperson for this conversation on the merits of globalization.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
lmao I'm studying China professionally, and lol if you think mainlanders and aunties over there are paragons of global awareness. Maybe the occasional university student might know something, but anyone who hasn't breathed in the smog-laden air or experienced how openly a whole crowd of mainlanders will just plain stare at a foreigner won't understand. 差不多 lol.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3790448&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 Full of anecdotal (and hilarious) stories and photos from expats so the POV is going to be courser than you'd expect, but the jist of it is China, and by extension Chinese education, may not be as glorious as you would like.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
Ew, how did one of you get in here?

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
Suuuure you are. Which is why you dragged China, a country whose government has a vested and historical interest in suppressing freedom of information, into a discussion about the United States and cultural imperialism. As if it's never even come up in the course of your 'professional education' that while both countries' average citizen might be less than worldly, the respective causes for their ignorance might just be vastly different. See, it's not that I think Chinese citizens are globally aware, it's just that you opened with a categorically incorrect statement and spiraled from there into a typical, eyeroll-worthy 'What about China?' non sequitur, as expected of someone whose 'education' definitely came from goon posts. Go posture somewhere else.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Lol no, that's China

This is just like... objectively not true. It will probably become true in the future but it is not at all the case right now.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a double standard to expect Americans to learn as much about every country their media gets exported to as the people in those countries learn about America from American media, when people in those countries aren't bothering to learn as much about each other.

If you are willing to become an expert on the culture, history, politics, and current events of every society that imports American media or hears about the US on the news all the time, then maybe we can talk about how much Americans are obligated to learn about what basically amounts to EVERY OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH EXCEPT NORTH KOREA WHICH THEY SHOULD LEARN ABOUT ANYAY.

+1

(Anonymous) 2018-05-18 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this.