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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-05-25 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4160 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4160 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]



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[The Russian version of Sherlock Holmes]


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05. [SPOILERS for Yuri on Ice]



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06. [SPOILERS for Avengers: Infinity War]



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07. [SPOILERS for TAZ: Balance arc]



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08. [WARNING for suicide]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]














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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what happens when you redefine 'pedophilia' to mean 'anybody under 18' instead of 'prepubescent children'. You start seeing it everywhere.

It gets a lot of people going RARGH about stuff that really, really doesn't come under that blanket and honestly, if anybody considers a sexually active animated seventeen year old to be tantamount to abusing an actual, real life child, they need help.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of skeevy shit in a lot of anime, but simply having teen characters in relationships is not pedophilia by any means and that's what a lot of these crazy fucks seem to think.

I've watched a shitload of anime in my life and I literally cannot think of a single one I've ever seen that contains pedophilia, either with an older character preying on a prepubescent (or even prepubescent looking) character or with sexualised characters that are children. Even in something like The Ancient Magus' Bride, the younger character is 16, which is the age a girl can marry in Japan, with parental consent, if I recall, so it's perfectly acceptable in the country of origin.

What the fuck are these people watching to find pedophilia everywhere? Actually, don't tell me. I don't want to know.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. A
Another important point is I think that characters don't age, while people do. When I was 11, I shipped some of the Digimon kids. I still do now when I'm almost 30, but according to the internet it's creepy now?

And you're right. It's really hard to find *actual* pedophilia in anime... like, there certainly are some Hentai and Yaoi anime that contain it, but I' hard pressed to remember one.
Maybe Kuroshitsuji? I absolutely *don't* mean the Sebastian/Ciel ship, which is not canon in any sort of way, despite the baity art sometimes, but I do mean the creepy old guy who clearly lusted after Ciel and the events that happened to him in the past (am trying to be vague cause of spoilers).

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Another important point is I think that characters don't age, while people do. When I was 11, I shipped some of the Digimon kids. I still do now when I'm almost 30, but according to the internet it's creepy now?

If that's the case, I'd be screwed, too. I'm in my 30s and I enjoyed watching "The Jungle Movie" last year and seeing Arnold and Helga finally get together, 'cause that was a pairing I liked when I was a kid.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT Whelp, looks like I'm also screwed 'cause not only do I also still ship some of the kids from Digimon, I also ship Helga and Arnold and I let out the most obnoxious squee at the end of The Jungle Movie.
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[personal profile] killertofuuu 2018-05-26 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I ship the fuck out of Tweek and Craig from South Park, so I'll be joining Team Screwed.

Not that I care. Creek is adorable. Antis can suck it.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2018-05-26 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah...I do not understand the idea that 'shipping' means 'want to fuck'. It's...bizarre.
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[personal profile] killertofuuu 2018-05-26 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
I don't either. If shipping = porn to some people, that's their problem, not mine. Of course, it's entirely possible that antis use that mindset as a convenient excuse to be bullies and/or incite ship wank. Either way, they're assholes.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2018-05-26 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yepyepyep. Fuck 'em. (My OTP of OTPs is a 12 year old and a 13 year old - Anita and Hisa from Read or Dream - so...yeah...really annoys me when people make that equivalence.)

(Anonymous) 2018-05-26 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
They usually turn out to have serious issues themselves, the people who become Single Issue Wonks about it. They either have a connection as a victim/close to someone who was, or they're desperately repressing their own urges. They're the ones with the horrified fascination with the topic, and that's why they watch it for us, so we don't have to...

And yeah, antis refusing to recognize adult or nearly adult, characters as adults means they're taking the agency away from those characters and/or viewers of the same age who just want to watch some romance. Age of consent exists for a reason, but there's also a reason why we let 16 year olds drive cars but 12 year olds absolutely are not allowed to.

Someone with no room for that nuance...is headed down a dangerous road.