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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-02 05:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #575 ]


⌈ Secret Post #575 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Gosh, yes, it's so very edgy not to be afraid to disagree with people!

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's edgy to state your dissension with antagonistically phrased statements such as 'failboat full of fucking crap', 'shittastic plot' and implying that everyone who enjoyed it was unknowingly drugged.

You disagree? Fine. You didn't like it? I'm cool with that, whatever rocks your boat. But that doesn't mean you've gotta piss in the pool just cause you don't like swimming.

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, so I'm not allowed to express my opinion when I think something is shit, because it might in some way upset some anonymous person on the internet. Expressing my dissenting opinion is pissing in the pool.

Cry moar.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon is afraid of the acidic quality of your piss.

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Disagreeing with people on the internet is very scary!

[identity profile] alleykitten.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not scary. It's edgy.

[identity profile] alleykitten.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
What's wrong with pissing in the pool? Isn't that what chlorine is for?

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Remind me not to go swimming with you!

[identity profile] alleykitten.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
What about in the ocean?

[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The ocean is already fucked by things far worse than piss.

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(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
HYPERBOLE KILLS!

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
*sighs*

My problem is with your phrasing. Not your opinion. To make it simple for you: you sound like a troll. You sound like you want to rub a load of people up the wrong way, get them chomping at the bit and massing together with cries of 'you're wrong!' either for a sick sense of amusement as you watch them expend their energies in a useless attempt to change your mind/prove you wrong, or you're wielding some sort of badly aimed preemptive strike because you know you opinion isn't the same as the majority, and that makes you so very special and put-upon.

I'll repeat: You don't like the film? That's cool, I've got no problem with that. You feel like expressing this sentiment in an open forum? Also cool, freedom of speech and all that. You feel like harshly insulting both the film and the people who did enjoy it without any balanced arguments? Now you've lost me. And now you're edgy.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
edgy

You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=edgy

Top definition. Also note my use of italics, indicating sarcasm.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
mayhaps you should have used the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags.

Ooo.... URBAN DICTIONARY! you're so edgy. can I go to Edgy School so I can be just like you?

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[identity profile] miarr.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The point, you have missed it by approximately six billion degrees.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't know what's funnier: the fact that you think i missed the point... or, the fact that YOU missed the point ~_o

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
or you're wielding some sort of badly aimed preemptive strike because you know you opinion isn't the same as the majority, and that makes you so very special and put-upon.

Either you are understandably cynical from many years on the internet, or you're projecting. I don't think I'm special or put-upon when I think something popular is crap; I just don't feel the need not to say what I think because other people might be butthurt over it. "Harshly insulting" a film does not make someone a troll. As for "harshly insulting" the people who enjoyed it, no. If I'd said "I think the people who loved this movie must be cretins with no inkling of what makes a good movie, and are probably the same kind of people who think McDonald's food is equal to five star cuisine", that would be harshly insulting them (and no, I don't think that).

If my intention had been to post a thoughtful review or "balanced argument" I would have pointed to various aspects of the movie which I thought were crap. My intention wasn't to post a thoughtful review, it was just a brief rant in reaction to the huge numbers of secrets over the past week from people loving the movie, employing a similar degree of hyperbole.

If I'd actually wanted to be obnoxious and cause trouble, I would have gone through and replied to the comments by all the people who loved the movie telling them what I thought.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
If I'd actually wanted to be obnoxious and cause trouble, I would have gone through and replied to the comments by all the people who loved the movie telling them what I thought.


now, THAT is a fantastic notion. why didn't I think of that?

[identity profile] miarr.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
My theory is that they've been lacing the soft drinks at cinemas with E or crack, and the rest of you have been drinking it, because WHY SO FUCKING SERIOUSLY OVERRATED, YOU GUYS???

Phrasing your insult as a question does not make it any less of an insult. I realize it may not have been your intent, which is nice, but questioning someone's taste by saying "what the hell, are you on drugs?" can't really be interpreted as anything other than condescending. I honestly have no beef with you, I'm just pointing out that the internet requires a certain measure of tact which the original comment was lacking. Your subsequent posts were much better phrased.

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(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You said that anyone who enjoyed it must have also enjoyed drugged beverages from the cinema. Implying not only that drugs were needed to enjoy the film, but that there was some sort of mass brainwashing going on, unnoticed, amongst the viewers - and that you were exempt from this, being so much better than the rest of us plebes.

Maybe this was not your intention. It's still the way you came across. Communication is a matter of connotations and interpretation, especially in a text-only forum. I found your comment to be unnecessarily antagonistic, as I previously stated. No, harshly insulting a film does not make you a troll.

Stating a dissenting statement in a forum using antagonistic phrasing, however, is pretty much the definition of a troll.

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(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what is even MORE edgy?

Being anonymous!!

(Anonymous) 2008-08-03 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't actually have a livejournal account. So, no gold star for you.