[ SECRET POST #4205 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4205 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Taste of the Country on Netflix]


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03.
[The Power of One]


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04.
[Julian Fellowes, creator of Downton Abbey]


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05.
[Slightly Damned]


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06.
[Phryne and Jack, Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]


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07.
[Russell Howard and Jon Richardson
Aisling Bea and Catherine Ryan
Dara O'Brian and Ed Byrne
Greg Davies and Roisin Conaty
Robert Webb and David Mitchell
Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry
Julian Barratt and Noel Fielding
Jonathan Ross and Jimmy Carr]









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Comments

[fscom]

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[Phryne and Jack, Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]

[(Anonymous)]

Ditto, OP! I enjoy the whole will they, won't they vibe too much.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Jack has already acknowledged his ambivalence about Phryne's non-monogamous nature. He's not going to ask her to change: not just because he doesn't think she can, but I think also because he doesn't feel that it's right of him to ask. (I suspect he also has some sneaking admiration for "the modern woman.") And while he understandably doesn't want to be a "one of many," by not consummating their attraction and keeping the fencing match on low simmer (mixed metaphors FTW!) he gets to be "one of the few."

I know there's a Season 4 incoming and (possibly) one or more movies, but I really, really hope they don't get married (or even sleep together).

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

No season 4. Film for the movie (hopefully one of three) begins in October. I trust the producers to develop the relationship in a reasonable way--I don't think getting them together would ruin the banter (a lot of the show takes inspiration from things like The Thin Man, rather than the more modern habit of stretching the characters until they are no longer recognisable by the time they hook up), but I also think Every Cloud enjoys the URST way too much to settle on an easy answer.

[(Anonymous)]

Same!

[(Anonymous)]

It's on my list of shows to watch but HATE when shows turn two strong individuals who are fun and flirty too into another boring couple. Especially if it's a strong female lead. Women don't need a man to be complete. Wish the entertainment industry would get the memo.

[(Anonymous)]

I really don't think that that will happen here, but since there has been a very very slow burn over 3 seasons I suppose it's possible.

All in all, it's a delightful show.

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely don't think the show thinks Phryne needs a man to be complete. And I don't think Phryne could be boring if she tried. 'Normal' is not something she does.

[(Anonymous)]

You'd like the show!

[(Anonymous)]

Well, three seasons and 34 episodes and it hasn't happened yet. Phryne is a really fun, entertaining character who doesn't a man... but who enjoys their company a lot.

[starfleetbrat]

Good luck getting a fourth season. The ABC (Australia) has been cancelling well rating shows left right and centre for "budgetary reasons" lately. At least we'll get a movie, assuming that is still going ahead.

[(Anonymous)]

:( I still have hopes of a movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that's why they funded the movie via Kickstarter. It was a massive fundraising success and filming starts in October this year.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I'm so, so, so sick of the will-they-won't-they, obstacle-after-obstacle nature of most relationships on TV. There have been some (alas, still too few) fictional couples who get together and stay fun, flirty and interesting, so I don't agree with the conventional "wisdom" that it spells doom. Writers just need to do their jobs better.

[silverr]

But as other commenters have said, it's not really more of the same tired "Will they or won't they?" trope -- it's more a case of two people who are attracted to each other, admire each other, but are also well aware that unless one of them has a RADICAL change (or does major repressing) to who they are, a relationship probably wouldn't work long-term.

Contrast them with Hugh and Dot: the obstacles to their relationship aren't so fundamental.

[(Anonymous)]

Every couple that fits this trope has unique characteristics and narrative differences (or again, made-up, often increasingly unrealistic obstacles) from others. Individual character development does not mean you’re immune from relying on exhausted cliches. I’d still rather see writers show a couple with fundamental differences try to work through them together than more will they won’t they crap. YMMV

As my dad would say, they need to shit or get off the pot.

[silverr]

Fair enough.

My own mileage on this particular series is that it seems clear to both us and them that they will; the 'won't they' bit is off the table. The question now is more "How?" (which might fall under the sort of thing you said you'd like to see).

[(Anonymous)]

Just chiming in (very late) to agree. I went into this show really hoping for a platonic male/female relationship, because the "Will they, won't they?" trope is SO OVERDONE and often poorly executed. This... didn't really fit that mold. There's a clear progression from "They are attracted but can't/won't act on it due to conflicting morals, and they both acknowledge the other person is entitled to those morals", them growing closer as friends and working partners as the attraction heats up, and them slowly figuring out what they each want and can give to a potential relationship. Even the brief flirtation with a love triangle in season 3 is MUCH more about their own desires/needs than a genuine triangle. It's honestly my favourite ship of any media, ever.

[silverr]

"They are attracted but can't/won't act on it due to conflicting morals, and they both acknowledge the other person is entitled to those morals"

This, absolutely. Aside from the series being sex-positive overall, it's so refreshing that there's no Phryne-shaming coming from Jack. Yes, he makes a few wry comments about "the modern woman" (and does show flickers of jealousy when old beaux of Phryne show up) but he's not an ass about it. It's refreshing.