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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-08-06 06:54 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-08-06 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a head canon. Whatever.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-08-06 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Those things aren't mutually exclusive? I mean, Harry could have wanted to be an auror but end up too traumatized. I have no problem with him being an auror in canon, though I prefer him as house husband or teacher myself. But I think you're kind of missing the point because it isn't like Harry wanted to be traumatized or knew he would be. People change, and trauma does effect people.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-08-06 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. The 'Auror' stories sometimes are very...dull, to me, because it seems to sort of straightjacket Harry into a role that doesn't fit him very well, for me.

So i get where you're coming from (domestic fic can be boring, too), but i'm not terribly excited about auror stories, either.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-06 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Harry being an Auror fits the character really well, to me, and I'm curious why you think the role doesn't fit him / what you think would fit him better

I can definitely see Ron being a poor fit as an Auror but Harry is, you know, brave, somewhat deductive, calm and competent in a crisis, and an ace at DADA.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-08-06 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe its how it's written? I dunno. Auror seems very rule-oriented, very paper-work-doing, very *staid*, and that doesn't fit Harry to me, at all. Plus, while he *was* brave during the war and etc., he didn't *choose* that, and he hated being afraid, fighting for his life, seeing people get hurt.

Just...doesn't work for me. His being married doesn't really work for me, either. I rather like him doing something creative, or teaching, or even working on getting some Muggle stuff to work in the magical world.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-06 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. I guess I associated that more with the Ministry of Magic than the Aurors specifically. I mean, staid, rule-oriented, paper-work-doing - those aren't words that I would associate with Tonks, for instance.

Also, the trope of the maverick cop who doesn't care about paperwork is pretty classic and it really amuses me to imagine Harry becoming that.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-08-06 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I really dislike that trope, so it doesn't much interest me. Paperwork is...kinda important.

Tonks as a person might have been all wild and crazy, but you don't get to run around shooting off magic in regular, non-war situations, in my mind.

Eh - you do you, anon, i just dislike the auror headcanon a lot.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-06 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Auror seems very rule-oriented, very paper-work-doing, very *staid*

I would not use any of those terms to describe Moody or Tonks.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-08-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
*shrug*
They cut up in private, and it was a war, so they had to do some crazy stuff, but in peace time? When they're all still staying a secret from the Muggle world?

Not so much.

Being a big rule-enforcer just doesn't work for me re: Harry.
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-08-06 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
fwiw ia with you.

I've never been a fan of Auror!Harry (or at least not happy-to-be-an-Auror Harry), and a lot of that is how much the books show it would be a bad fit. Harry is a snarky asshole who has issues with authority, and more specifically with the Ministry.

Harry says he wants to be an Auror not out of any desire to actually do that job or bc he thinks it would be a good fit. He literally hasn't thought of his life past defeating Voldemort AT ALL. In the books he goes with 'Auror' bc he's only vaguely familiar with wizarding jobs and he's good at defense.


I've always favored Harry as a teacher or school staff (I could see him stepping into the role of Head of Slytherin House after the war, when no one else is willing to accept it, for example). I'm also fond of him becoming an Unspeakable or some other sort of "weird" job that keeps him as far from the public as possible. I also like the idea of him being perpetually stuck leading the DA/OotP as conflicts continue to arise in the years following Voldemort's death.

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(Anonymous) 2018-08-06 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
it seems to sort of straightjacket Harry into a role that doesn't fit him very well, for me.

This hadn't occurred to me, but I'd like to hear more, just out of interest. (No particular headcanon myself either way.)
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-08-06 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to copy past what I said in the comment above, if you don't mind.

Auror seems very rule-oriented, very paper-work-doing, very *staid*, and that doesn't fit Harry to me, at all. Plus, while he *was* brave during the war and etc., he didn't *choose* that, and he hated being afraid, fighting for his life, seeing people get hurt.

Just...doesn't work for me. His being married doesn't really work for me, either. I rather like him doing something creative, or teaching, or even working on getting some Muggle stuff to work in the magical world.

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(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Literally Moody was a paranoid person who regularly seemed to hate authority figures unless they proves themselves, so.

Also, he wanted to be an Auror specifically because then it was his choice and he could help prevent people getting hurt.

Also why would Harry fucking Potter, who loved the wizarding world and all its fantastical things, take something so close to the boring-ass life so associated with his abusers?

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(Anonymous) 2018-08-06 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
TBH I always figured that the whole "I want to be an auror" thing in fifth year was because Umbridge was there and he didn't want to admit that he had no clue about what sort of job he might be interested in, so he just blurted the first thing that came to mind.

I don't think he was aware of that many professions in the wizarding world back then. Teacher, ministry worker, auror, mediwizard, quidditch player, shopkeeper, and (maybe) people who make the items for shops to sell.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, his best subject by far was Defense Against the Dark Arts, so yeah, I can't think of any reason why being an Auror would make sense to him

(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't arguing that he wouldn't be a good fit for the job, I was just responding to the part of the secret talking about Harry expressing interest in it. As far as I can recall the interview with McGonnagall and Umbridge is the first time he mentions anything of the sort, so it just didn't seem to me like he really meant it.

Also, playing devil's advocate here: the fact that someone is good at something doesn't necessarily mean they want to do it professionally.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
but he'd also had Moody to look up to for a whole year and change prior, which, while it wasn't the real Moody for half that time, it still showed him what aurors really do and it clearly appealed to him.

I honestly thought if he wasn't an auror he'd be a teacher but nothing about auror didn't not make sense to me all along. If that makes sense.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
i like auror!harry, too! but then again, pretty much the only bits i enjoyed re: the end of canon were tidbits like ginny and ron changing careers over time, and i always pictured something like that for harry as well. it just kind of makes sense to me that he'd go on trying to professionally do what he's already done as a kid, and then slowly find other paths in life once the war grows more distant? things like teaching, or perhaps doing something quidditch or broom-related.

that being said, i'm basically committing the fandom sin of disliking teacher!harry as the ultimate immediately-post-battle solution, but that's probably because some vocal fans get really obnoxious about it? yeah, please, go on lecturing people on how harry is too traumatised to work as an auror, but definitely fine to teach dada to kids barely younger than him, especially after having seen the dead bodies of some of the da members aka kids he's previously taught.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I love Auror!Harry. It was his dream and he was damn good at DAtDA.

I think people grew attached to this idea of being a house husband because PROGRESSIVE!!!! or him being a teacher because they hated so many of the Hogwarts DAtDA teachers or something, that they never stopped to consider this even though Harry expressed interest in it.

Then it actually happened and... People were fussed because THEIR PRECIOUS HEADCANONS!!!!!1!11!1!

(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I think Harry should've been too messed up to form meaningful relationships with people at all, given that he grew up with absolutely no love and was made to feel utterly worthless by his family. But it certainly makes for a better story to have him go off to school and make friends and be all likable and everything...

(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Am I alone in remembering JKR's original Personal Site, pre the corporate dementor's kiss of Pottermore as it is today. You know, her cute little site with Easter eggs around her "desk" and so on? Because I also remember the little monthly(?) wizarding profiles she posted, especially the very last one, which was Harry himself. It stated that he became Head of the Auror Department at age 27. And anyone's feelings about Word of God aside, this was at least a decade before Cursed Child was even an idea.

As for Harry being too traumatized -- there are plenty of great cops who are war vets. There are also great cops who were abused as children and adolescents, who go into the line of duty to protect other people from being treated the way they were. I always thought being an Auror was a perfect fit for Harry, who can't stand to the side watching bad things happen to other people, even the ones he doesn't like.

Finally, when it comes to Harry's dislike of authority, well, you kind of have to remember that much of the authority we see in the books is either deeply flawed or completely corrupt, from Small-Time Bullshitter Fudge all the way to Absolute Monster Umbridge. I've always thought of the post-War Ministry as being like post-Soviet police departments in former states. They had to literally destroy almost everything there and rework from the ground up. I witnessed myself how almost a whole police force of one nation became uniformly under the age of 30 right after The Fall. There was just too much corruption, KGB ties, and old wrongs among the established cops, and the New Blood was at least starting innocent.

Considering Harry's relatively insanely young age at promotion to Head of a Department I like to think the ministry shake-up got rid of most of the old-timers and restaffed fresh with young people who hadn't been tainted by the dirty politics of the past ministry.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-11 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved that website! It was so fun to explore around her desk and find new stuff! Man, now I miss it lol

(Anonymous) 2018-08-07 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm basically just here for Harry Potter dressed up as a member of the Black Parade. It's like someone crossed the streams of all my teenage fandoms.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-08 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
+1