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⌈ Secret Post #4265 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[philstar22]

I'm sure there are a few, small reasons it would be okay to own a gun. But I'm not sure if hunting is one of them. Or at least, there should be a lot less hunters. I think hunting should only be allowed when necessary (for population control like with deer, other reasons why it would be necessary). Otherwise, killing animals should not be a sport.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard for me to have a problem with it as long as the hunters are using the meat.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

Same, or if it's being done for population control.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

I know a few people who hunt for food. Not because they need to, per se, so much as it's cheaper than buying meat in a lot of cases and they don't mind doing the work. (They also want to keep meat rabbits and such in the future.)

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[philstar22]

I think I'm okay with that. My issue really is people viewing it as a sport or a game. If you want to do it for food, no difference than any other means of getting meat. But don't make it a game. Shooting living things is not a game.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

It can be both.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[philstar22]

I'm saying it shouldn't be. Killing animals should not be considered a sport. They are living beings. Do it out of necessity, sure. Everyone needs to eat. But don't do it for fun. Don't ever forget that you're killing a living being.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

To will the end is to will the means. I think anyone can find satisfaction in doing their work well, whatever the work is. And if the work itself isn't morally objectionable, I don't think that the satisfaction can be either.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

Nah. I get where you're coming from, but nah. I cook for fun - which quite often involves the flesh of dead animals. By all means appreciate where your food comes from, but treating it like it's a sacred relic (that you happen to be making into meatloaf) isn't something people have to do.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

And the logic would also extend - as far as I can tell - to enjoying the taste of meat.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. I don't hunt, nor do I see myself enjoying it as a sport. But as long as people aren't hunting endangered species and they're using the meat, I don't see a problem with enjoying the activity. They're outdoors, being part of the circle of life, putting food on their table. I enjoy grocery shopping. I enjoy cooking for myself and family/friends and I definitely enjoy eating! It's ridiculous to say oh nooooo, you shouldn't enjoy any of that because there's a dead animal involved.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

I'm okay with hunting for animal population control (which is why I'm iffy on hunting predators like wolves) or for food.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[philstar22]

I think this is where I come out too. I just think it needs to be clearly for the purpose and not made out to be a game. Killing animals should never be fun and games.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

Well, the predators are specifically eliminated to make hunting better for the hunters. And anybody who tries to reintroduce wolves, etc., for a healthier overall ecosystem faces the wrath of farmers, ranchers, and hunters, even when it's proven that everything works better when the predators are allowed to do their job, which is eliminate and cull the weak and sickly animals. That's specifically what hunters don't want to do. They want the healthy animals to eat, or as a trophy.

The deer populations suffer in this way. A long, slow death of disease instead of a quick take-down by a predator, and the removal of the best genetics for future breeding.

Basically I'm against guns for hunting as a "population control" method because hunters don't adequately control population. It's a hobby and an "I'm a big man" thing for most hunters. And a way for states to earn money selling licenses.

Control of animal populations should be 1) bring back the predators you fucking weak ass cowards, and 2) actual experts who will cull the appropriate animals in the appropriate amounts, not try to get something nice looking to put on their walls.

The reason animals need "population control" is because humans have very carefully and studiously removed the natural cotrols and fucked every thing up. And now we "need" hunters, to make it even fucking worse.

I have strong feelings about this ....

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

That's certainly a thought that has merit. But, it ignores the fact that in many places (several US states and entire countries) the current deer population is made up primarily (or entirely) of the descendants of imported deer. In some cases, it's because naturalists decided to repopulate a failing or extinct population of deer with hardy stock from out of state into areas where there are few or no natural controls. In other cases, it's because sportsman started their own herds because they wanted something familiar to hunt.

Either way, the problem is man-made from the onset. Humans, as the most populous apex predators left in these areas, actually are the most natural control to this problem, unless you prefer the other natural solution of letting the deer ravage the landscape until they slowly starve themselves and competing herbivores out. It also ignores some basic ecological facts about predators, primarily that in a healthy ecosystem, pack hunters don't choose to eat sick and weak animals because that would make them sick and provide lower quality meat compared to the caloric expenditure involved in taking it down. Predators will pick off weak or sick animals if they're desperate or if they're hunting alone. Pack hunters, like wolves, don't need to settle for the dregs and can take down big, healthy, calorie-dense animals. Think about it: if they only took down the sickly, weak animals then they'd be useless as population control because those animals are either past their prime or unlikely to reproduce because of their weak, sickliness.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[(Anonymous)]

I live in a part of the country where it's rural and low income. For a not insignificant number of people, hunting puts meat on the table.

Re: Controversial Opinions & Rants

[philstar22]

And I'm fine with that as long as they aren't just doing it for fun or turning it into a game. Making the shooting of living beings fun and games is part and parcel of America's terrible gun culture and not a good thing. Shoot and kill for food, fine, but know that you are killing another living being and take that seriously.