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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-13 05:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #586 ]


⌈ Secret Post #586 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] weaselistic.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
141. How is she any worse than, say, Milo?
ext_107368: (Sendhil // Hearts scarfs)

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] be-found.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Took the words right out of my mouth.

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] nothingtosay.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone is taking the words out of my mouth tonight.

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Oh, and she's different because she has a vagina.)

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] top-hatted-girl.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
He's pretty bad, too. Dunno, I was warming up to him during the first season, but he just kind of went downhill from there.

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] weaselistic.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I find Future Peter pretty embarassing.

Dania seems to have range, but I haven't seen very much of her yet. Her role in S2 did not let her show a great range, but I think she was always pretty believable with those emotional scenes.

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] top-hatted-girl.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely didn't buy his gravelly-voiced, look-how-bitter-and-jaded-I-have-become deal. Pretty forced shit, right there.

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] weaselistic.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Constipated, yes. :D I'm happy to see not everyone considers it "badass" like the majority of fandom. (I hate that word.)

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] aratama.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
She should take more courses in "Acting With Your Hair 101". :(

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[identity profile] top-hatted-girl.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The hair was definitely the most likeable part of his character. Sad but true.

Re: 141.

[identity profile] hako-neko.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
They need to kill off Peter and let the real actors lead the show... as opposed to having some boring, but pretty Keanu Reeves archtype.
cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (Richard Thorne)

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-08-14 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I've watched Milo in a lot of things and I don't think he's a terrible actor. Peter is often a terrible character (for one thing, they cannot decide if he is going to be empath boy or a big damn hero, which makes him look like a selfish rich kid with his head screwed on wrong), and I've done my share of metaing on how and why his characterisation and arc are full of fail. Peter annoyed me consistently throughout the first half of S1 and the last half of S2. However, there have been times when I have liked him. All of these times have been when Nathan was around, go figure. (I feel terribly sorry for Nathan though having to deal with him and Angela.) But this is the fault of the writers, not Milo. (I also know that Dania can act. Also the fault of the writers that Maya sucks ass.)

But I don't hate him as much as I hate Maya, because when I complain about Peter, I get agreed with by most of the people I know, whereas when I complain about Maya I get OMGSTFU RACIST MISOGYNIST WHORE. Which is really fucking annoying and just makes me hate her more.
Edited 2008-08-14 01:40 (UTC)

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

(Anonymous) 2008-08-14 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
when I complain about Maya I get OMGSTFU RACIST MISOGYNIST WHORE. Which is really fucking annoying and just makes me hate her more.

Well, I can't speak for other Maya supporters, but I know I only suspect a Maya basher of misogyny when the main reason for her hate seems to be "OMG! That person with a vagina dared to be attracted to one half of my OTP?! DIE SLUTTY BITCH!" Or something along those lines. I have far less of a problem with people who dislike Maya because they didn't care for her storyline or Ramirez's acting. I don't necessarily agree with them, but different strokes for different folks.

In any case, to hate a character because of comments made by a bunch of random people online is so silly I can't really even put it into words. Seems to me that if you want to be angry at/hate someone, it should be us, not her.
cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (possessive!Sylar)

Re: 104;108;110;123;141.

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-08-14 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
In any case, to hate a character because of comments made by a bunch of random people online is so silly I can't really even put it into words. Seems to me that if you want to be angry at/hate someone, it should be us, not her.

Logically, you're right; but emotions aren't logical. What happens is there's this extra layer of irritation whenever the topic comes up, so that not only am I being annoyed by the bad writing, but also all the memories of how everyone says "oh, you ship Mylar, so you just hate her because you ship Mylar". Dude. I am 44. I know that if I ship something slash, chances are on screen, there will be a girl in the way. And yes, that's annoying, but the DEGREE to which it annoys me is definitely dependent on the girl in question. I ship House/Wilson like FedEx, but I LOVED Amber. I ship Mylar, and I hate Maya, because unlike Amber, Maya's badly-written.

I just think there are a lot more people who hate her because of the bad writing.

Also, I don't think disliking a character because they interfere with your OTP is necessarily tantamount to omg misogyny. If Sylar got with Peter, and not Maya, I'd find that MORE annoying because if they were willing to let him be gay, why with one of the lamer boys instead of a cool one? I wouldn't have minded Candace as much as Maya either. Basically, if TPTB are going to break up my OTP, fine, they can do that, but I want it to be with someone at least comparably cool.