[ SECRET POST #4317 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4317 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That headline is misleading, though. In the article, they actually wonder whether they'd be able to do now what they did then (a 5-white-guy troupe often impersonating women). And they blatantly say that feminism and PC culture are two different things.

[(Anonymous)]

But it's reasonable to wonder about that. Wondering about that isn't bad, the part that's bad is where you frame that as insane and unreasonable and hateful and an example of the PC police destroying comedy and free speech.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not here to judge good/bad - that's really boring to me - I'm just saying that the headline makes a claim the interviewees don't actually make or even imply. In fact, they wisely skirt around the issue.

[(Anonymous)]

The point that I'm making is that "wondering whether they could still perform some skits" is not the same as "worrying about PC culture ruining comedy".

[(Anonymous)]

OK, well it seems you're intentionally misreading and/or missing the point of my comments, so I'm out.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that the interview in any way contradicts the headline, although it's as sensationalistic as headlines have to be. I think that your framing of the interview in your first post is a much less accurate representation of it than the headline is. I dunno what else to tell you.

[(Anonymous)]

Your comment is a touch misleading. Bruce says feminism and PC culture are two different things in response to the interview's remark about comedians who wouldn't call themselves feminists and they would say that pc culture is ruining comedy.

Then Kevin tells about a friend of his who asked whether or not you could have a troupe of guys impersonating women and Kevin says, "...I don’t know. In my workshops, I see a lot of comedy troupes that are men and women, and women play men all the time and men play women all the time."

[(Anonymous)]

That's the way I read the interview. YMMV. Here's that portion of the interview so everyone can judge for themselves.

Do you consider yourselves feminists?

McCulloch: Without question. It’s like, how could anyone say they’re not a feminist? That seems like such a non-conversation to me.

Kevin McDonald: It’s like saying I’m not a water drinker.

There are guys who would say they aren’t. And certainly some male comedians say “P.C. culture” is ruining comedy.

McCulloch: Well, feminism and P.C. culture are two different things.

McDonald: An old friend of ours who teaches comedy said in front of his class, “Do you think nowadays, you’d have five guys playing women? Would you be allowed to do that?” And I don’t know. In my workshops, I see a lot of comedy troupes that are men and women, and women play men all the time and men play women all the time. On the other hand, are there going to be any five white-guy comedy troupes anymore?

McCulloch: Well, of course there are.

McDonald: But are they going to get a TV show?

McCulloch: Yes.

McDonald: Maybe. Whitest Kids U’Know might be the last one. [The American sketch troupe had a series on Fuse and IFC from 2007 to 2011.]

Was there any material you did in your early days that you wouldn’t do now?

McCulloch: We’ve done things obviously that didn’t work or were too far. But certainly now . . . it’s our people who come and want to see our thing.

[(Anonymous)]

They don't sound very worried about PC culture to me... just like the title says.