[ SECRET POST #4322 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4322 ⌋

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Comments

[el_regrs]

I don't have a preference for however she dies, but I definitely do not want the obvious valonqar to be Jaime.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought the obvious valonqar was Tyrion. Considering they are both opposing her and how badly she messed up their lives it seems they are the only right candidates to do it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I think Tyrion is the obvious one, Jaime is supposed to be the surprise.

[el_regrs]

I guess after 12 years in the fandom, it seems obvious to me that Tyrion is a red herring. Cersei beats the audience over the head with her suspicions so much that he probably will not be the one to kill her. And so, that leaves her other younger brother.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean he's both. He's the obvious candidate for the prophecy (especially in Cersei's view), but he's also an obvious red herring. Jaime is "obvious" in the sense that you (and many, many other readers) have seen through the fake out, but the way it's written, GRRM intends Tyrion to be the obvious choice and that Jaime will be the twist. It's not a great twist, particularly now. But IMO, that's what's intended.

[el_regrs]

Also, I keep forgetting we're talking about the show and not necessarily the books, so maybe Jaime isn't necessarily as obvious as he might appear to be in the books.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Not at first anyway, because he and Cersei's relationship doesn't devolve as quickly, I think.

[(Anonymous)]

I like the Euron theory myself, especially given the line of the prophecy about her 'drowning in her own tears' first. The combination of 'drowned' and 'younger brother' do make me like Euron for it, and he's also ... he's the sort of man that Cersei would think she could manipulate, but Euron's crazy is like an order of magnitude or so above where she thinks it is. Given her own crazy, I kind of like the idea of her just being straight outclassed in that regard and dying due to her own arrogance.

Though the drowning in her own tears bit also makes me wonder idly about Sansa, given her experiences with Petyr, Joffrey and Lysa, and the association with the Tears of Lys. If 'valonqar' is gender neutral, she could be a dark horse outside chance here. I don't think she's the sort to strangle someone with her bare hands if a poisoning went wrong, though. Not even now. Coldly order it, yes. Physically do the deed, no. Though her and Arya as a team might be an interesting option.

[(Anonymous)]

No, "valonqar" isn't gender neutral, AFAIK. It's High Valyrian for "little brother".

[(Anonymous)]

There was a theory about it possibly being gender-neutral since the prince in 'prince who was promised' turned out to be. I think the idea is that there could be a general translation issue with High Valyrian nowadays, and a lot more of the nouns could be gender-neutral than modern Westerosi translations allow for. That said, I know, it probably isn't that likely. Like I said, I was thinking more dark horse, outside chance with that one.

[(Anonymous)]

Has the show decreed who the "prince who was promised" actually is, or are there still just theories and multiple candidates?