[ SECRET POST #4352 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4352 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I always figured that the "Arwen's fate is tied to the ring" thing meant that, because she had chosen to stay in Middle Earth and not go across the seas, she couldn't escape whatever happened with Sauron. So if the ring quest was unsuccessful and Sauron got his power back etc., Arwen was as doomed as Middle Earth was.

[tabaqui]

Me, too.

[philstar22]

I think that is what they were trying for. But the way it was worded made it sound like she had some sort of special fate tied to the Ring that wasn't true for everyone else.

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree with ayrt. The film definitely made it sound like Arwen's fate was tied to the ring in a much more direct way than was true for everyone else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsbDigj7w5c

[(Anonymous)]

I had assumed that, too, and was a bit confused why everyone was complaining like they gave Arwen's life actual magic ties to the ring. I think people just took Elrond too literally.

[(Anonymous)]

... probably because that's a very reasonable interpretation for what Elrond says and what the movie shows? I mean, in ROTK this happens:

* Aragorn has a dream/vision of a very pale, barely moving Arwen lying on a bed of dead leaves, a tear running down her cheek and saying, "I wish I could've seen him one last time". The evenstar pendant falls and shatters on the ground. This is not subtle. Not even a tiny bit.

* Elrond shows up and says:

I come on behalf of one whom I love. Arwen is dying. She will not long survive the evil that now spreads from Mordor. The light of the Evenstar is failing. As Sauron’s power grows her strength wanes. Arwen’s life is now tied to the fate of the Ring. The Shadow is upon us Aragorn. The end has come.


The reason people complain that the film gave Arwen's life actual magical ties to the One Ring is because that's exactly what the film did.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure it was more than that. If it was just a case of Arwen is going to be doomed like everyone else will be doomed, why would Elrond travel all that way to see Aragorn and deliver his message in such an ominous fashion? Elrond comes right out and says that Arwen is dying, right after a dream sequence laden with symbolic death imagery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsbDigj7w5c