[ SECRET POST #4381 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4381 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I really miss the way that you used to be able to have tons of MotW episodes without worrying about the overarching story as much. I felt that it gave shows time to breath, and just be an enjoyable procedural show, and get to know the characters, and focus on putting out good individual episodes instead of making every single episode subservient to the larger whole. Wish we could go back to that a little more.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep this.

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

Also, trends come and go. People are going to get just as tired of the current TV trends as they are of MotW now. What's popular now isn't "better". It's just different.

[(Anonymous)]

Monster of the Week is great, but Charmed is not an example of it done well. They forget anything character or morality driven.

[(Anonymous)]

I am so fucking sick of things being 'morality driven'. It makes for boring stories. I can't wait for the modern trend of it to die.

Stories about people simply being flawed humans are much more interesting and usually carry any intended moral message far better than the pasted on black and white morality BS you get these days.

[philstar22]

Flawed, sure. But only if the show acknowledges they are flawed. Charmed often applauded terrible acts by the main characters. I liked Charmed, at least the earlier seasons. But it really did not do morality well.

[darkmanifest]

It did try, at least early on. That whole episode where they learned one simple act of spite with magic led to them being witchhunted and they had to accept that they deserved it for turning into monsters was one of my favorites. The show just had a short memory and by the time it got to the whole mess with Cole and Phoebe going to the dark side, it was like, tee-hee, no consequences for this shit.

[philstar22]

No consequences for Phoebe. Cole got all the consequences when he never actually originally chose to go evil. He was freaking possessed and still got blamed.

Yes, early on the show did try. But from season 4 on, the shows morality boiled mostly down to the girls + Leo can do anything and they are right vs. anyone who disagrees with them is evil.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't mean like general morals. But them learning any lesson whatsoever.

Also Charmed had that "must not do things selfish for magic to work" that never really mattered.

[philstar22]

It did in the early seasons, kind of. Season 6 and further though. Suddenly everyone was allowed to be selfish. Although Phoebe gets called on it a little and gets parts of her magic taken. But no one else gets called on it when Piper and Paige were just a bad.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I've no problem with an overarching storyline for a series in and of itself, but depending on the show, a lot of those overarching stories wind up getting so convoluted and confusing with time, and that risks drowning out any focus on the characters and their development and such in the process.

Plus, I think some shows just naturally lend themselves better to episodic stories than overarching mythologies. Not everything has to or needs to be serialized.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. The hate for any non-epic arc storylines/episodes and sneering at "procedurals" leaves me cold. Sometimes you just want to enjoy an episode of a show without major things happening like character death or changes to the show dynamic.

[ayebydan]

There were many problems with the original series but I still have the fear that it will be another generic show from that channel that follows the same pattern and all the sets and colouring ect look the same. And I feel like Charmed grew into a great show originally where if you're copycatting it is easier to start good.

[(Anonymous)]

At least the original wasn't so damn preachy. I gave the new one three episodes and it went soooo overboard on "gotta be PC" that it sucked the life out of it.

Also OP I think you are being unfair comparing special effects from a show that ran 20 years ago to today. Especially a show that ran on a new tv channel. The WB had only been around for about 5 or 6 years when Charmed came out so they had a tiny budget to work with.

[(Anonymous)]

Well you do you, op, but I couldn't disagree more. I quit the new show after the Halloween ep, it was too bland for me (I still didn't even know their names) and too unfunny. Like, the original wasn't a comedy but it had a lot of fun and funny moments and those were some of the best parts.

[philstar22]

This is why I quit the new show. I didn't mind the plot structure and the lack of episodic episodes. I liked the morality. I just found the show boring. None of the new characters really interested me.

[(Anonymous)]

upon rewatch for the first time in a decade, the old Charmed was also chock full of whitewashing (several African/Indian gods are portrayed as white), mythological misinformation and antiLGBT and ableism. and that’s just the first five episodes.

I haven’t seen the reboot yet but I’m looking forward to watching it.

[(Anonymous)]

Am I the only person who actually liked Leo? He made some bad decisions, but he generally tried to stick to 'for the greater good'
Hated Prue, she came across as a very stuck up bitch, although that seems to be more of a reflection on the actress than the character.
Piper was alright, but she could *never* be wrong. Very demanding and bitchy when she didn't get her way.
Phoebe was great, most of the time. Needed a redemption of Cole arc, and a happy ever after for them.
Paige started off a nightmare, but became better as time went on.

[philstar22]

I liked Leo. I agree about Prue. Piper was my favorite. Phoebe went back and forth for me. Sometimes she was great, sometimes she was terrible. I liked Paige a lot. But in the last couple of seasons, everyone was terrible. Except maybe Leo if only because the show acknowledged that he was having issues with losing his son and making mistakes. The whole girls could do no wrong mantra of seasons 6 and 7 frustrated me and made me lose interest.