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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-01-05 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #4384 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4384 ⌋

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[Mystery Science Theater 3000/The Flintstones]


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[Celebrity chef and food critic Andrew Zimmern]


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[Fantastic Beasts 2]


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[Jake Lacy]


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[Romeo + Juliet]


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[Anna Faris and Chris Evans in "What's Your Number?"]


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['Into You' by Ariana Grande]








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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-01-05 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe not. But I don't think it is cool for a white, American guy to be lecturing Asians on what is or isn't authentic Chinese food. Most of those places are staffed by actual Chinese people or at least people with Chinese ancestry.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Are they? Most seem to be staffed with general Asian people. And I don't think a Taiwanese person (my local chinese place is owned by a Taiwanese family), probably shouldn't be lecturing Chinese people either.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Politically speaking, China claims Taiwan is China, so...

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The Republic of China also claims that Taiwan is China, but that it is not part of the PRC.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Both the Republic of China and the People's Republic of China claim to be the legitimate government of China.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-06 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
And in the end, they all eat Chinese food.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-06 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Many different kinds thereof, yes.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
So what? Because a country conquers another that means we just need to accept it? I guess Britain should go back to making their colonies.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So... if PRC says Taiwan is China, then they can't complain if a Taiwanese person lectures about Chinese food, right? Since it should be all the same "Chinese" food? :)

You seem really uh, exaggerated about this though.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, who's the colonial country here, and who's the colony? Is the ROC the colonial power, or the PRC? Is the colony the PRC, or aboriginal Taiwanese people? Who are we actually defending here?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you mean to say Thai, or are you just stupid?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you too stupid to realize that for many Taiwanese individuals, they reject the Chinese identity because they feel they are distinct culture and country.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-01-05 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe. Still not comfortable with any Asian people being lectured by a white guy on any kind of Asian food, though.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You're getting dangerously close to "[East] Asians are basically all the same so it doesn't matter." Pretty much every shitty local sushi restaurant near me is owned by either Korean or Filipino families, and someone would be well-within their rights to talk about how inaccurate the food is. Because they're not Japanese, they're not using Japanese techniques, the end result is not Japanese.

Now don't get me wrong, this particular guy is a complete asshole and should be raked across the coals, but there is something to be said for food being "passed off" as a certain cuisine that it's simply not.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-01-06 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
So that is for Japanese people to take up with them but no white folk should be getting involved. It will never be our place. It is really simple. And did you hurt yourself reaching with your opening statement?

(Anonymous) 2019-01-06 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think anybody who is a customer of a restaurant has reason to complain about food not being authentic..?

If I go to a Japanese restaurant expecting Japanese food, I'm well within my rights to complain when it's a shitty korean knock-off.
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2019-01-06 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
There is a way to do it and above ain't it.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Most Taiwanese people are ethnically Chinese

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And all hispanics in Central America share the same ethnicity. See how far you get telling a Cuban they are the same as a Mexican.

(Anonymous) 2019-01-05 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
But I don't think that analogy works at all... Most Taiwanese are members of various Han Chinese ethnic groups. That's a fact. Your comment just... didn't make sense.

[personal profile] idran 2019-01-06 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
It's not just a bad analogy, it's outright wrong: mestizos and white Latinx people definitely aren't the same ethnicity, and there's increasingly a pushback at considering them as such, especially amongst the former. Just because ethnicity isn't divided by country doesn't mean all Latinx people are the same ethnicity.

Plus, those two countries aren't even Central American, they're both North American.

(Even if you do include Mexico in the definition of Central America, which most Latinx people don't, there's still no definition of it where Cuba is Central American. The entire Caribbean is North American under every definition.)

[personal profile] idran 2019-01-06 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Plus he all but said that he had more authority to talk about authentic Chinese cuisine than Philip Chiang, because Chiang was, in his words, "a rich, American kid on the inside".