[ SECRET POST #4426 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4426 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Reminds me of rich people being offended when told they're lucky and insisting they earned every cent of their money, lol.

I mean, some did work hard and for long hours and busted their ass to get there. No denying that. They were also really lucky to have started their business when they did, or hit success with it, or didn't run into any number of major permanent setbacks, etc etc, because lots of other people did the same thing and put in as much effort, and failed.

It's the same with talent and practice... to be really, really good, you need to have both. Just one or the other won't get you there.

Why can't people just acknowledge it takes a bit of both?

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

People who go "there's no such thing as talent, it's ALL just work"(usually implying that anyone could do what they do if they just worked hard enough) remind me a lot of those kinds of people who insist there's no such thing as privilege.

[(Anonymous)]

They can be one in the same too. A more than a few "hard workers" come from a privileged background and had more time and resources to cultivate their skills.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon from above, and this is the exact tone of jealousy and resentment I'm talking about. When I hear "you're so talented," I hear "you're so lucky/privileged/not special in any way other than having a magical unearned ability that I don't have!"

Which is really annoying when you're spending like 6+ hours a day sometimes honing your craft.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Why?

I'd see your point if that was your reaction to "wow you have such a natural talent, I wish I was as talented as you poor me le sigh" - cause those people are clearly just making victims of themselves.

But reading that much into just plain "you're so talented" or "wow, you're a talented artist!" sounds like an issue on your end.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, if a rando leaves a comment to that effect, sure, it's fine, and I assume have good intentions. But there are certain people I know who say it in a certain way that sounds like the anon I replied to. Talent = privilege.

And when some people say it to you in person, they actually scowl at you as they're saying it. Have you ever experienced that? It's very annoying, and I'm never quite sure how to respond.

[(Anonymous)]

Look, I've been trying to draw since I was eight years old, I have gotten the books I have practiced endlessly I have tried sketching from life I have tried references I have tried everything and I'm still just not that good at it. There is an aspect of talent, and it is a blinding privilege to be able to sit there and get offended that someone might insinuate that it wasn't 100% your hard work that did it. No one's saying you didn't work hard to get to a better place, but you had a step up that some people don't have.

[(Anonymous)]

it is a blinding privilege to be able to sit there and get offended that someone might insinuate that it wasn't 100% your hard work that did it

Yep, that's the general attitude I'm talking about, thanks for illustrating so perfectly.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't tell if you're agreeing with AYRT or if you really don't think that innate abilities (often perfected or at least improved by hard work) are a thing.

[(Anonymous)]

It's like I said further up. Ayrt is like those middle to ipper class white kids who believe anyone even thinking about insinuating they have a certain amount of privilege over others is a jealous McMeanipants.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think you're a McMeanipants, but you're clearly jealous.

I'm sorry you can't draw no matter how hard you try. That sucks.

[(Anonymous)]

Aaand there go your delusions again. You seriously have issues. (For the record - I can draw and am regularly annoyed by pretentious little morons like you who give artists a bad name by acting like anyone complimenting them is out for their blood.)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, you're still projecting.

[(Anonymous)]

And you still don't understand what projection is.