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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-03-24 03:11 pm

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Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a buzzword, yeah, but does it describe the phenomenon well enough to use despite the baggage.
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Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-03-24 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. At this point, it is used by certain people to describe anyone they don't like and to silence any discussion about discrimination. Maybe it once had a slightly useful role, though I think the people that would actually qualify for the strict meaning is very small. But now it has been too overused and too widely used to have any meaning.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but only in certain contexts where people are coming from a similiar place of understanding. While social justice on the whole is good, there's definitely the type of person who uses social justice as a means to look good instead of doing good and ignores the negative ramifications of

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
that.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think SJW is a useful term to capture that dynamic, though, because its use is not at all limited to those contexts. Most of the time it's used by people who think that's an accurate description of everyone who cares about social justice at all.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
What would you propose as a better term? It works fine with the sj-postive social circles I'm in.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"Extremists"? "Dickheads"? I don't know! I agree it's a problem but I don't think 'SJW' is the answer to it.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, both too vague for me. Until another term pops up that describes "social justice activist, but bad" as well as sjw, I'm gonna use it in circumstances where it works, sorry.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the term is highly dependent on context. Some people call themselves that, which I think is fine.

What's interesting to me is that when I first heard/read it, it really was meant to apply to people who got offended over the dumbest things. In my understanding at least, SJWs were more trolls who knew you weren't actually trying to be offensive and just wanted to get a rise out of you. Or who actually were offended for stupid reasons. Legitimately stupid reasons. I still come close to using it that way before catching myself, because I'm not actually against social justice. I'm just against being a jerk about it.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. IMHO anyone describing themself as a "warrior" shoots themself in the foot. Can't take them seriously. What is wrong with "activist"? can't we go bacl to that instead?

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-24 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
All terms are useful in some context. It's hard to think of one that isn't ever.
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Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

[personal profile] dahli 2019-03-25 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Eeeeeeeh tbh no, not anymore. It used to be but now it's used as a buzzword so much it has lost its meaning. Or rather, it has gained a new meaning all-together: "thing I don't like and make me feel threatened by? SJW!!"

Reminds me of the case where a female editor for Marvel comics (I think) went with a group of girls for milkshakes, they took a picture and uploaded it to twitter along the lines of "Milkshake Club!" aaand the poor editor got attacked being called an SJW among other things. My memory is kinda murky on this, but my point is that it has just become another insult on the internet.

Re: Do you think SJW is useful as a term?

(Anonymous) 2019-03-25 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Seeing "SJW" in a game review is an excellent sign that the reviewer doesn't give a fuck about the actual mechanics, systems, or implementation of the game, they're just trolling because the publisher did something "bad" for gamers.