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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-02 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4470 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4470 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I don't believe for a second that any girl who got into one of your "bad relationships" would not have gotten into the same bad relationship had she not read Twilight.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Relying on conspiracy rather than taking something for what it is is always the easy way out for fucking idiots like you.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2019-04-03 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
No, blaming women rather than acknowledging misogyny is a trend in the world is the easy way out.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not the person who responded, but how is it misogyny to go, "They were heavily influenced by Twilight because they were fucking twelve during this time frame and the romanticized abuse they were exposed to in their favorite book had a huge impact on them, by their own admission, and their choices later in life because they thought Edward was so romantic and they wanted one of their own?"
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2019-04-03 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
That's not really following the point I was replying to, but if men weren't inclined to abuse women it wouldn't matter what girls were fantasizing about, and in the absence of misogyny it wouldn't be created anew by female fantasies. Nobody asks to be mistreated, and it's not a "conspiracy" that makes it happen anyway, it's abusers.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
But when you live in a society that constantly tells you "a guy who's possessive and treats you like shit is the ideal,it's his way of showing how profoundly he loves you" and then get given fiction that just further glorifies this shit, it definitely affects young teens who come across it. Women up thread have given their stories about how the series has negatively impacted them and their perception of romance or the ideal guy, and your kneejerk reaction is to invalidate them? In the name of denegrating misogyny? Real nice.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not blaming women, but okay. Keep shilling for popular fiction that glorifies abuse, I guess.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-03 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, yeah you are. You are saying these girls got into abusive relationships by choice instead of blaming the ones who were abusing them. You are saying that their taste in books/movies is what gets them into abusive relationships and that it's their fault. That is just as bad as saying a girl is asking to be raped because she wears revealing clothing. Nobody wants to be in an actually abusive relationship, so please spare me this weak line of argument. Do you also think everyone who plays video games wishes they could kill people for real?

This is all assuming the original post was something that actually happened and not just another "let's mock the dumb teenage fangirls while I pretend to have the moral high ground". Tell me what kind of fics you read and what ships you ship. I guarantee it's just as bad, if not worse, than any of the OP books.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-04 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you could stop invalidating women's experiences as told by them, hm?