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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-19 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4487 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4487 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
No.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, people need to stop with the "space Nazis" thing. It's stupid and offensive, and I'm not a Star Wars fan. Nazism is a real and terrifying political ideology that derives its tenants from the mass extermination of specific ethnic, religious, and other minority groups. Sci-fi bad guys aren't "Nazis" because they wear uniforms.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
They're a fictional group but they're clearly drawn pretty directly from authoritarian fascist regimes in real life.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

The Empire was inspired by Richard Nixon's America.

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
But so? That doesn't make them Nazis. We should stop watering down Nazism by calling generic fictional military industrial complex baddies "Nazis".

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for saying this.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
What bothers me about this is how the designs and scenes with the First Order in TFA are clearly and verh heavy-handedly and clumsily supposed to be reminiscend of the Nazis (to a point where it's almost insulting to the viewers, like, how obvious can they be so even the dumbest person gets their point?) but we ultimately don't get to know all that much about the actual ideology behind the First Order. So calling them Space Nazis is mainly based on their visuals.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So you admit you don't know what you're talking about.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
And we used to ship wizard nazis. So fucking what?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Could not possibly be more low effort trolling here

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get why shipping Nazis is like an intrinsically bad thing to do?

I mean, wouldn't they HATE that?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, because in most cases though not universally, shipping characters involves some kind of sympathy, affection, identification, or enjoyment that is often understood to be at odds with an attitude of clear, forthright moral condemnation.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-19 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and probably some modern day Nazi being turned into a romantic woobie gazing lovingly into another Nazi's eyes while being fucked in the butt tenderly would probably hate that even more?

Like, I get where you're coming from but I disagree with the idea that slashing up characters and objectifying them for the sake of the author and reader's enjoyment is showing those characters or their ideals any sort of respect.

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
So no shipping evil people, period?

No, wait, lemme guess... "It's OK to ship evil people as long as you blah blah blah blah whatever whatever"

WTF are you doing with your life, anon.

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
+1
ninety6tears: kirk + uhura (turbolift) (trek: kirk/uhura)

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I like sock garters.

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+1 very underrated accessory

(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
+2

Very underrated and very sexy.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently military dress uniforms also have these shirt garter things that keep your shirt tucked in and basically there is a lot of crazy strapping going on under there.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Hnnnnnnngh!

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Never watched them movies, but I don’t understand fandom’s investment in [descriptor] nazis. These are fictional characters. They’re not real. I don’t think, for example, Grindledore shippers should be hated on because they’re shipping wizard nazis. If the fans sprout nazi ideology that’s a different matter, but this is often not the case.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Fictional Nazis are fictional characters but they also do and say similar things to what real-life Nazis do and say, are evil in similar ways, often have similar aesthetics, etc. So I think it seems to a lot of people like it's difficult to disentangle whatever else is going on from the aspects of the characters where they're basically doing the same stuff that real Nazis did in a fictional universe.

I don't think that anyone should be harassed for it. Do what you want to do. And I don't think it's intrinsically, completely morally wrong. But I do think that there is some real complexity there, and that people who talk about space!Nazis or wizard!nazis being bad aren't talking completely out of their asses, even knowing that it's entirely fictional. I think there is a moral argument there.

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
More like Wizard Magnetos.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-20 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I don't fucking get it.