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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-04-24 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #4492 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4492 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-04-24 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a character who's literally renamed Bitch/Whore. It's disgusting.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
There is???????

What the fuck????????

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
It's a loanword and the slutty slutty connotations are less strong.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
The connotations of "bitch" and "whore"? Well, one, can you describe some more about the depictions of the character and why they call her that, because that seems pretty shitty to me. It does not seem like there's a lot of nuance but I'm open to hearing about it.

But also, two, if your point is that "no one should judge people's taste in anime", why does it matter whether or not it's as degrading as naming a character "bitch whore" seems on the surface?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
The context is that, for some reason, the writer thought it would be hee-larious for a woman to cry false rape on the hero and then as comeuppance be made into a slave, and then on the urging of the protag was renamed Bitch with Whore and Slut as "good alternatives" to her name.

So I'm not very kind to it because this is what the writer thought would be good and funny. Like rape victims--especially in Japan--don't see enough trouble.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Malty is a shit person in general, but she's just one aspect of the dumpster fire that is the Shield Hero setting. The only good thing to do with it is drop someone else in one of the hero roles that will set fire to the whole shitpile and then piss on the ashes.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm saying the connotations of bitch in Japanese is not nearly as offensive as it is in English since it's a loanword and doesn't have the cultural baggage. Kinda like how bara is offensive is Japanese but essentially means buff dude in English anime circles. (1/2 because chrome on android sucks)

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
And my second point isn't that no one shouldn't judge other's taste in anime, only that getting uppity about it is incredibly lame. Because let's be real, that's the target demographic for late anime is otaku and anyone who cares about what anime specifically someone else is into is also one.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Idk what you mean by "uppity" but is what you're saying that all Otaku like things like this (or things that are equally bad) so no one can really say shit about it?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
the irony of someone defending the use of a character named bitch because of language differences and then, in english, using a racist word like uppity

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
OK, so are they calling it her in, like, a friendly way, or something? And what about the "whore" part - is that also a different connotation?

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
No. It's that she gets her name stripped from her because a royal made a false rape accusation (which what the fuck author) and so when her crimes were found out she was stripped of title, name and rank and was made a slave and renamed Bitch, with Whore and Slut as other possible things to call her.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Her alternate names are literally Whore and Slut, quit defending this. You're saying this author used these words not knowing what they meant.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
False rape plot is still a thing the author chose to go with though. Like, wow, are you TRYING to appeal to incels or what?

You'll pry judgmental tendencies from my cold, dead brain.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Stop making excuses for this shit, you inbred weeb.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's. It's literally Bicchi. That's literally Bitch. Literally Whore is considered a good alternate name for her.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
? No they aren't. "Bitch" is a loan word that quite certainly means "slut" in Japanese. And it is a pretty nasty word.

(Anonymous) 2019-04-25 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
...No? Bitch in Japan is basically "heartlessly slutty." It has even more ~slutty slutty connotations~ in Japan.