[ SECRET POST #4494 ]

[case]

? Secret Post #4494 ?

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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04. [SPOILERS for Jane the Virgin]



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06. [WARNING for possible discussion of suicide/abuse]

[Kimetsu no Yaiba]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #643.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

07. [WARNING for possible discussion of suicide/abuse]
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[(Anonymous)]

Thank fuck someone has said this. I've been out of fandom for the best part of a decade and now, coming back into it, I'm really fucking shocked at what it has become. Who are these killjoys and where did they come from? It's just fic FFS. I mean - yeah there may be things which push it too far sometimes - but these people arrive at the sound of a fucking fart.

[(Anonymous)]

People say this on F!S constantly

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you, but IME anti-antis are almost always hypocrites who totally forget this frustration as soon as THEIR hot buttons get pushed, and at this point I’ve had it with both sides.

[(Anonymous)]

I like the cut of your wall of text, OP. I agree with your everything.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm sick of both sides, ya'll are fucking annoying.

[(Anonymous)]

~B҉O҉T҉H҉ S҉I҉D҉E҉S҉~

[(Anonymous)]

Not so much as a direct reply to you but just a general passing thought inspired by the comment.


I'd like to think that if everyone came together in our mutual understanding that each and every person is annoying in their own unique way, we'd better ourselves as a society. Coming to terms that everyone, me, you, him, her, them over there, and anyone else, is completely and utterly full of shit would do us all a lot of good and we'd probably start liking each other more if such a common ground was laid out.

[(Anonymous)]

Your overuse of the term "anti" cuts the effectiveness of your message, becaue I've seen it used by delusional Snapefen and delusional Bellarkes, neither of who have that strong a grasp on the canon to begin with in their respective fandoms, especially wrt the abusive aspects of the characters or relationships involved.

[(Anonymous)]

Just FYI “delusional [whatever]s” cuts the effectiveness of your message as well.

Man, you guys are all peas in a pod.

[(Anonymous)]

Reminder: the last time F!S went on an anti-anti rally to defend ‘harmless shippy fun,’ the secret turned out to be about an actual pedophile.

Did we ever apologize to that one anon who called it, by the way?

[(Anonymous)]

You might want to explain what you are talking about. Most people are probably not going to remember or have any idea.

[feotakahari]

Uh, when was this?

[(Anonymous)]

The thread where most commenters were like, “I don’t know who you’re talking about, OP, can we get more info? And also yeah we shouldn’t jump to conclusions since we don’t know the situation.”?

[(Anonymous)]

I think, to the extent that you acknowledge that media does sometimes normalize bad things, then the argument mostly becomes about the annoying and toxic behavior of the antis, more than the underlying point. And then, when you're making that argument, the annoying and toxic behavior of the antis absolutely sucks, I'm not disagreeing with you there. But a lot of that toxicity isn't really distinct to antis - the reality is that a lot of internet discourse is really toxic and awful and brutal, regardless of what the argument is actually about. So that's where I come from, I guess.

[feotakahari]

The point we made a mistake in ceding isn’t that shippers are potentially abusers. It’s that antis aren’t. We should always question whether these adults who try to cut off kids from talking to any other adults, and position themselves as the only “safe” adults who won’t abuse kids, really have kids’ best interests in mind.

Comment OP

[(Anonymous)]

Oh hell, one of my comments gets made a secret and it's the one I least wanted to see what people would say about it.

Honestly? I wrote this rant after seeing numerous occasions of abusive behavior from antis in a moment of anger.

Re: Comment OP

[(Anonymous)]

You have my sympathies, OP. The comment secret-maker always picks the ones I'd least want made into secrets, too.

[dahli]

PREACH

[(Anonymous)]

This is a good secret, and I agree with all of it, OP.

Since Tumblr has half imploded over the porn getting taken away, it's actually been nice not to come across nearly as many antis as there used to be. Not that I've been logging much into Tumblr anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Giving up Tumblr (plus Twitter and Instagram) was honest to god the best thing I've ever done for my health.

[(Anonymous)]

A-freaking-men. Couldn't have said it better. One of the most disappointing thing in the discussion about fiction affecting reality is that it's not a discussion at all. It doesn't go in depth about the role of art, the difference between mainstream fiction and fandom fiction, the responsibilities of those that produce and/or consume "problematic" fiction, what is problematic and who has a right to decide, and so on and so on. It's an important and rich debate but right now it's just people shouting their truths to one another without explaining what they mean. That's not helpful.

[(Anonymous)]

Just keep in mind that with the ease of access to the internet, these people could very well be 10-11 year olds trolling you or just being....children. Like, imagine meeting these people in real life. Have you seen some fans? Do you think they would actually say some of these things to your face, as a full grown adult? Once you put into context the people behind the avatars or blogs, it changes your whole perspective and makes it easier to ignore or block these people. Believe me, after I realized that some of the people in my fandom were the same age as people I supervise...yeah I couldn't take them seriously anymore lol.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Thank you.

[(Anonymous)]

ITA.