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[ SECRET POST #4500 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4500 ⌋

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[Neil Gaiman's Good Omens and American Gods]

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[Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky]

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[Letterkenny]

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[The Umbrella Academy]

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Because I'm having trouble thinking of many, but that might just be me.
Bonus points if they're not a villain.
Double bonus points if they're not straight.

Nathan Ford from Leverage. Can't stand the half of fandom that thinks the show would have been better without his character.

Can I count Michael from The Good ? Fans love him but hate when you ship him with Eleanor because you're detracting from more diverse ships.

*The Good PLACE

I don't think "people hate this ship" really counts as "people hate this character"

I really have trouble liking characters with addictions. So yeah. That was why I struggled with Leverage. If he'd been any other race and still an alcoholic I would have felt the same.

Well, Luther is obvious.

A lot of people hate Castiel.

Scott from Teen Wolf. Yeah, he is hispanic but he is white hispanic. And he looks as white as any other white character on the show.

the fact that scott is hispanic makes him not-white, him being white-passing doesn't magically negate that. so no, that's not a white character being hated, that's a hispanic character being hated.

Scott isn't hispanic. The actor is like...1/16 hispanic.

Re: White Male Characters who fandom hates

(Anonymous) - 2019-05-03 01:33 (UTC) - Expand

Re: White Male Characters who fandom hates

(Anonymous) - 2019-05-03 05:32 (UTC) - Expand

Except "Hispanic" is not actually a race. Hence why there are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, etc. If someone is white Hispanic, then they're still white (and also Hispanic) but you can't say they're "not white".

A lot of people love Castiel, what’s your point?

Not AYRT, but I think the point is that a lot of people hate him. The fact that a lot of people love him doesn't negate the fact that a lot of people hate him.

Edmund in Mansfield Park

I didn't know people hated Edmund. I thought they mostly hated Fanny. But that may have been the discussion group I was in, which wasn't very representative of the rest of fandom.

(And now that you mention it Edmund is kind of a dick.)

NAYRT

Edmund is a total dick. Mind you everyone in that book was some level of asshole.

The Sherlock fandom doesn't hate Sherlock, but a whole lot of Greater Fandom does. (It's possibly deserved, though, and I say that as a fan.)

And, of course, Tony Stark. Is he disproportionately loved? Definitely. Is he also disproportionately hated? Absolutely. Will I concede that he is MORE disproportionately loved than hated? Yup. But all the same.

A lot of people love Harry Potter, but a lot of other people seem to think he's a boring-ass white boy who ought to take several seats and let "more interesting" characters lead.

Malcolm Reynolds.

And then there's pretty much every white, straight male lead from an '00s show - most of whom were pretty good characters in and of themselves, but who garner a lot of contempt because, "Oh god, not another one; what flavor of mavericky-genius-with-manpain will he be this time?"

The same can be said about Steve Rogers. And Loki (though he is a villain). They don't really count because they are also hugely loved.

Does Thor have hate? I don't think so....

Re: White Male Characters who fandom hates

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Re: White Male Characters who fandom hates

(Anonymous) - 2019-05-03 01:56 (UTC) - Expand

Re: White Male Characters who fandom hates

(Anonymous) - 2019-05-03 01:56 (UTC) - Expand

AYRT - Yeah, I didn't include Loki because he's a villain. Same reason I didn't include Kylo Ren. With villains it's pretty tough to distinguish between people hating a character the way canon encourages them to, and people hating a character for personal reasons.

I mean, Kylo gets a LOT of hate, but then he also deserves a lot of hate. I do think a lot of people hate Kylo with an extra level of intensity, because on a personal level they just can't stand him. But I don't think one can reasonably make the argument that Kylo deserves a neutral or positive reaction.

And the funny thing about Harry Potter is that as soon as they racebend him, he's suddenly the most amazing character even though nothing about his actual character has changed.

My first big run-in with this was Finn Hudson from Glee. Like, he was a dumb teenager and he made dumb teenager mistakes, literally all of them did, but god you'd think he was the actual fuckin' Antichrist for how much hate he got. So ridiculous. It got so bad that if you even remotely gave the idea that you were in any way fond of him as a character, you too were the Antichrist and people descended on you like locusts.

Cyclops from X-Men. Nobody likes Cyclops.

FUCKING + 9 BILLION FROM ME!!! KIJUFIYGVFODNE!!!!!

Owen Hunt

Wesley... TNG... Enough said.

Man, it's like a reverse thing for me; I loved Wesley in the show (I was a nine year old girl who didn't know any better, okay), but I've really come to hate Wil Wheaton. It's a shame he turned out to be such a chode.

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