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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-03 11:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #4501 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4501 ⌋

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05. [SPOILERS for Avengers: Endgame]



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07. [SPOILERS for Homestuck Epilogues]
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(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
>> Steve's story was terrible.

>Why? It was foreshadowed that he had a tough time getting used to the future and couldn't get a life. Although the timeline made no goddamn sense, but none of the time travel did.


The winter soldier was all about him letting go of the past and moving on. Just like Peggy tells him to do.


Bringing back a different Gamora was offensive.

>offensive

Yeah, if they replace old Gamora with the new one as a love interest, that is pretty awful.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Who knows what they're going to do with Gamora.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Spoiler: They are going to pair her back with Peter because heteroromances, no matter how terrible, are great and one grean alien is just as good as another, amirite?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
We don't know what they will do or what kind of journey the characters will go on to get there.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
one grean alien is just as good as another, amirite?

This is such a weird take. She's not a different person, she's herself with the clock rolled back a few years. True, she will never be exactly the same as the Gamora we knew first, because there'll be about 4 years of experiences that Gamora 1.0 had that Gamora 2.0 won't ever have. But unless you think that the first 25(?) or so years of her life wasn't sufficient to establish her identity, she is Gamora.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
No, she is from a different timeline. She is a different person. She is already fundamentally different.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
It's a different timeline because they went to it and, by going to it, changed it. Everything that happens before they get there is the same as everything that happened up until that point in the main universe. So no, if genetics and experience are the things the "self" is based on, Gamora 2.0 is our Gamora, minus about four years of canonical experiences.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

Fundamentally: adjective. serving as, or being an essential part of, a foundation or basis; basic; underlying

No, fundamentally, she is the exact same person - child taken by Thanos who she secretly hates, raised in constant competition with her adopted sister, holds serious doubts about Thanos' "grand" plan. Her experiences with the Guardians did not make her who she is, they simply honed what was already there.

Really boiled down, it's just a classic amnesia trope. It could be handled poorly, or it could be handled well. I choose to be optimistic.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Have fun being offended by things that haven't happened, I guess.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Have fun invalidating others when the MCU has repeatedly supported ayrt's theory, I guess.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, if only because I have little faith in James Gunn.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-05-04 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, exactly. Endgame totally ignores all of Steve's character development in his own movies. He has not been wallowing in the past. He's moved on. He's happy where he is. He's got friends. He's got family (Natasha, Sam, and Bucky). He's happy.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, if they replace old Gamora with the new one as a love interest, that is pretty awful.

Hahaha, but that's comic books for you. Seriously, I won't get into the merits of fictional reset buttons right now but you have to know your material.

Honestly, keeping Gamora 2.0 around and dealing with the ensuing fallouts would be the bolder choice. So they're not gonna do that. Here's how they're actually going to go about it: in the next Guardians film, a cosmic something something will imbue Gamora 2.0 with all the memories of her OG self, up to and including dying at Thanos's hand. This should be a traumatizing event, but in universe it'll play out as nbfd. We're back at pre-IW status lineup-wise, and Marvel gets their cake and eats it too.