[ SECRET POST #4512 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4512 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know about Thanos and Gothel, but Stannis clearly loved his daughter. Unfortunately, he loved winning the war (or Melisandre) more.

[(Anonymous)]

Show!Stannis was an absolute joke. His whole argument was that he was the rightful heir by blood, and Shireen was his only heir. In the books, he gave specific orders to his men that if anything happened to him, she was to be protected at all costs for that exact reason. Without his heir, his claim to the throne meant absolutely nothing.

[sabotabby]

That was the most ridiculous plot for exactly this reason.

[philstar22]

Look, we know that Martin told the showrunners a few spoilers, and it has been pretty strongly suggested that this was one of them. Whether or not it was stupid (not sure it is myself, but I feel very strongly about another thing that I'm also pretty sure was one of the spoilers), it is probably going to happen in the books. It probably isn't just something the showrunners made up.

[(Anonymous)]

This is the thing though. Anything in the series post-current-latest-book that people don't like is being blamed on the show-runners, regardless of whether they got the plot point from GRRM or not. He can change his mind about it now, seeing how unpopular it is and knowing it'll only boost his sales (if he ever publishes another damn book that isn't a prequel or side-quel) to have things happen differently. Unless Benioff & Weiss come out with a list of the plot points GRRM gave them to work with, he gets all the credit and they get all the blame.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god, at the rate the man writes, if he decides to change major plot points in his unpublished books at this point, none of them will EVER see the light of day. I've already given up on Dream but even Winds is toast. GRRM can't compromise on expedient choices. You just know if he wants one outcome to change then fucking everything leading up to it will have to be revamped. ARGH.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I heard that he's a bit annoyed/disappointed that Benioff & Weiss left out certain plot points (like Lady Stoneheart), but without enough direction from the books as to how to take them once they ran out of books to show more directly on-screen, what else could they do? I doubt GRRM explained the WHOLE planned plot.

Plus it's a bit rich, coming from him - I read somewhere that one of the reasons for the delay of the next and subsequent book is because he's killed off a character he now realises he needed to resolve some plot-thread or other.

[(Anonymous)]

They said George told them about it, though it's possible the circumstances will be different in the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfLScJVXBHQ

[(Anonymous)]

Right now, because it only happened in the show, I'm keeping it simple and saying Show!Stannis is stupid. If it turns out the books do it too, then you'll see me saying Book!Stannis is also stupid, don't worry