[ SECRET POST #4517 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4517 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

[Image: the logo for Avengers: Endgame]

Text: After the events of the comic book version of Civil War, I wasn't overly fond of Iron Man. But thanks to the movie version of him (which I found mediocre), almost everybody seemed to love him. I certainly didn't/don't want to spoil anyone's fun, but it was a little frustrating to feel like the odd one out.

Seeing people complaining about him on this site in the leadup to Endgame was a breath of fresh air. It may shift back now that the movie's out, but I'm glad to have seen others feel the way I do.

Full disclosure: I stopped watching the MCU a long time ago and only get my information about it via FS. It's less that I'm invested in people agreeing with me and more that seeing it/him appear on here constantly makes it easier to notice a shift of opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a huge Tony fan either, so I hear you. I'd like him more if maybe he didn't dominate every movie he was in to the detriment of others, and if the writing didn't just have him making the same mistakes over and over again. I think quite a few people feel that way but honestly, even typing out that low level criticism is enough to get people whining about "haters" so it's often easier not to say anything.

[(Anonymous)]

This. He wouldn't be so bad if he at LEAST stuck to his own movies. I could deal with the Avengers focusing on him if had not been in Spiderman or Captain America movies.

[philstar22]

Agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

+100

[(Anonymous)]

Ditto.

[(Anonymous)]

1 You are mixing your Starks.
2 Making your mind on rumors is silly.
3 So you love to hate this character in every comic continuation, animated series and movies, good for you. The thing is FS is not the only anti Iron Man space. It's more pro Captain America.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know of another Anti-Iron Man space? I guess Tumblr counts but Tumblr hates everything.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
as I'm pro Stark, idk, man. Perhaps some AO3 tag, and definitely tumblr.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but I don't really give a shit about Steve. I just got really sick of Tony.

[(Anonymous)]

The opinion on FS is really skewed, mostly bc of Cap fans, I think? Who seem to resent him taking what they perceive as Cap screen time? MCU Iron Man is beloved in the US and world wide. Sorry, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

"What they perceive as Cap screen time" you mean like, for instance, in the third Captain America movie?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a Cap fan and I still think Tony gets way too much screen time.

[(Anonymous)]

I really only care about the MCU and thought Tony had a great arc.

Comics...meh. I find it hard to give any shits about two-dimensional drawings, soz.

[philstar22]

He did have a great arc. It is just that his great arc took over things and stopped other characters from also having great arcs.

[(Anonymous)]

And then his arc started doing backflips.

[(Anonymous)]

This is true, and I agree with this even though Tony and Thor are the only two I care about in the MCU. It was heavily unbalanced in Tony's favor and that sort of thing, in an ensemble cast, is always frustrating.

[sparklywalls]

I really soured on MCU Tony for a number of years but I actually warmed to him again during IW. Endgame I didn't really feel much in either direction, though I will admit I cried when *that* happened. I know this comm skews pro-Steve but I'm not particularly a Cap fan either. My favourite franchise was the Thor franchise (yes, all three...not just one of the films.)

I do get the complaints about Tony dominating screen time. I guess it was inevitable because RDJ is so likeable (generally) and there'd be NO MCU without Tony/RDJ being such a success. Even so, I can't with people who don't like the character gloating at his fans about the fact he's dead now and they need to get over it. Because I know very well how that feels. It's easy to say "but he got such a well rounded, multi-film not-rushed arc compared to *insert character*" but really just let people grieve for their fave in peace.

Anyway, he's probably mostly out of it all now apart from Peter Parker is probably going to mention him quite a bit in FFH - but you'd expect that.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd expect Peter to mention his actual father figure, Uncle Ben, at some point over the course of the movies he's been in, but that has also been eaten up by Tony, unfortunately.

[sparklywalls]

Yeah it's a real "sore thumb" moment in the MCU. I know we're all over the same origin story being told again and again but Ben is such a well known part of Spider-Man's origin that it does seem a little jarring that he's been basically relegated in MCU continuity. I don't need to see him being shot dead yet again any more than I need to see Bruce Wayne's parents die for like the fifth time...but it does seem weird to barely mention things like that.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - Yeah, we definitely don't need the full origin again but it seemed so strange that neither Peter nor May would mention him even in passing that I went back and checked the transcript for both HC and Peter's intro scene in CW--not one single mention of "Ben" or "my uncle" or anything. It's like he never even existed in this continuity.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think there has been a big "shift of opinion" as such, it's just that for one reason or another more people in this comm seem to dislike him rather than like him. I'd say it's just a coincidence because we are a relatively small group of people (or at least that's what it seems like to me).

Personally, I hated Iron Man in the Civil War comics and related storylines but I am an unapologetic MCU Tony Stark fangirl. They're different interpretations of the character and the MCU Civil War doesn't have much to do with the original Civil War anyway.

I do understand and even share some of the criticism, but he's still my favorite overall.

[(Anonymous)]

Seconding all of this emphatically.

[(Anonymous)]

If you ever need me to complain about Tony I'm here for you OP...