[ SECRET POST #4517 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4517 ⌋

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Comments

[sparklywalls]

I really soured on MCU Tony for a number of years but I actually warmed to him again during IW. Endgame I didn't really feel much in either direction, though I will admit I cried when *that* happened. I know this comm skews pro-Steve but I'm not particularly a Cap fan either. My favourite franchise was the Thor franchise (yes, all three...not just one of the films.)

I do get the complaints about Tony dominating screen time. I guess it was inevitable because RDJ is so likeable (generally) and there'd be NO MCU without Tony/RDJ being such a success. Even so, I can't with people who don't like the character gloating at his fans about the fact he's dead now and they need to get over it. Because I know very well how that feels. It's easy to say "but he got such a well rounded, multi-film not-rushed arc compared to *insert character*" but really just let people grieve for their fave in peace.

Anyway, he's probably mostly out of it all now apart from Peter Parker is probably going to mention him quite a bit in FFH - but you'd expect that.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd expect Peter to mention his actual father figure, Uncle Ben, at some point over the course of the movies he's been in, but that has also been eaten up by Tony, unfortunately.

[sparklywalls]

Yeah it's a real "sore thumb" moment in the MCU. I know we're all over the same origin story being told again and again but Ben is such a well known part of Spider-Man's origin that it does seem a little jarring that he's been basically relegated in MCU continuity. I don't need to see him being shot dead yet again any more than I need to see Bruce Wayne's parents die for like the fifth time...but it does seem weird to barely mention things like that.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT - Yeah, we definitely don't need the full origin again but it seemed so strange that neither Peter nor May would mention him even in passing that I went back and checked the transcript for both HC and Peter's intro scene in CW--not one single mention of "Ben" or "my uncle" or anything. It's like he never even existed in this continuity.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Ben is very present in Peter's into scene - only more so because he's not explicitly spoken of.

When Tony asks Peter why he does what he does, peter gives his "and then the bad things happen" answer. Tony responds that Peter's "looking out for the little guy" and peter kind of stutters and looks evasive and mumbles "yeah, just- just looking out for the little guy." The implication being: peter feels that the bad thing that happened to his uncle could've been prevented. It's unclear whether peter feels responsible for what happened to Ben, but he definitely feels like it could've been stopped, and like he can stop similar things from happening now, to other people, even though it's too late for Ben. And that's what "gets him out of his twin bed in the morning."

[(Anonymous)]

Or, you know, any of the movies could have a single passing mention to the man who raised Peter actually having existed instead of a mere implication that's really only there if you squint really hard. Even a picture of Ben somewhere in the apartment. A passing mention that May is extra worried because it's just the two of them now. Literally anything.

[(Anonymous)]

It was subtle, for sure, but I don't think it was ambiguous. Personally, I much prefer it the way they've done it. I like that the writers allow us to infer a lot about Peter's backstory. I like that they're committed to finding a new angle so that it's not just rehashing the same story beats one more time.