[ SECRET POST #4519 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4519 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Cow and Chicken]


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03.
[Mary Death]


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04.
[Deus Ex: Mankind Divided]


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05.
[unrelated art by Kono Bairei]


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06.
[Absolutely Fabulous, Jennifer Saunders and Joanna Lumley]


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07.
[Jigokuraku]


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08.
[Ruby Rose as Batwoman]


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09.
[Good Burger]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 31 secrets from Secret Submission Post #647.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Asking artists to draw your OC for free? Dropping unsolicited prompts on writers? Showing actors smut of their characters?
What offences againt your idea of fandom etiquette have you seen?

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

dumping negativity in tags

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

This.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

(This thread prompted by:) I have mentioned here before that I have a favourite writer who is, sadly, not great at finishing things - they will often post a few thousand words of something really cool, then lose interest and abandon it forever. Which is a shame, because I'd love to see where these stories go, but the author is not my slave, I'm not their boss, I can deal with my disappointment like an adult.

On a recent work, though, someone left a SUPER passive-aggressive comment that was like: "This is great! It's a shame you're going to abandon it in a chapter or two to go write something else!"
There was more, but you get the drift.
Who the hell thinks that's a reasonable comment to make? Or even vaguely helpful? It's not like being an ass is going to make the writer want to go back to your favourite abandoned project.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Lol wow at that comment. If I was the author I'd probably respond with something like "Maybe I do it just to piss you off, hun. :)"

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

It's funny, because that exact type of writer is why I won't read wips until they're completely done, but an acquaintance of mine that has the same problem came the fuck down on me for taking that position because "not getting feedback during the process kills [their] motivation to write it" so it's like... lmao getting feedback doesn't help you either so why should anyone suffer abandoned story after abandoned story just to give you a few buttpats?

I didn't say that, because, as you say, not helpful, but... I understand the frustration, haha.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I AM that kind of writer, which is why I generally only post one-shots. The one multi-chapter fic I've posted recently was had a completed first draft before I posted chapter one.

I'd like to think I'll get back to some of the older fics, someday ... but probably not.

(And I have no issue with people not deciding to read my stuff because of that.)

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Those writers that can't ever finish anything really shouldn't participate in charity events. It's one thing to leave your own work unfinished, but abandoning something that has been paid for is not cool.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, agreed. I've won bids on Fandom Trumps Hate in previous years, and though the artists are usually pretty good at getting their work done, I'm yet to see a writer deliver :/

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

My friend has someone who comments on EVERY ONE OF HER FICS about how much they hate a particular character. Like... Paragraphs about how this character is a bitch. Which okay might be alright if they were the villain in this fic, but they're one of the main pov characters and the author's fave! Not cool

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[el_regrs]

Oh god, that would get old so quickly.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[dahli]

Jesus Christ, that sounds awful.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

That person needs to stop reading fic about characters they hate! Life is too short!

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Entitlement. Unless you've paid for art or fic, creators don't owe you shit.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhh, I agree there's sometimes too much entitlement, but I feel weird drawing the line at 'unless you paid for it'.

If I sign up for a fic or art exchange and it's expected that the creator will work (within reason) with my likes and dislikes, it's not entitled (imo) to be upset if I receive something that literally has all of my dislikes and none of my likes.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Totally. And also the way that some writers act like they're entitled to comments from readers. Exact same thing.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Once I was in a fandom where a really wet behind the ears fangirl (old enough to know better, just... naive) was super excited because she chatted with the creators and sent them links to all the best fanfics (including her own, which was terrible) and didn't understand why the rest of us were like... girl, no. This was back in the day when a copyright holder could get ALL the fics deleted off FFnet with a single cease and desist. She was soooo upset and didn't understand why people were being so mean to her.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yikes

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[greghousesgf]

I saw Penn and Teller live and they always do a meet and greet after their shows. this one woman standing next to me kept poking Penn in the back with her finger and I could tell it was pissing him off. (I'm just glad he didn't think I was the one doing it!)

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Why the hell would someone go to an event like that just to be obnoxious to the person they presumably came to see?

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

From a writer: Reviews of books are for other readers to gauge whether this is something they want to read. As the author, you're welcome to read them, but you're not entitled to only glowing reviews, and for the love of Mike, please do not engage with a review you find negative. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION.

Not everything you write will please everyone and that's okay!

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I’ve posted about this on FS before, but I was at San Diego Comic Con the first year Twilight had a Hall H panel. Hall H sits 6,500 people, and it’s not cleared between panels, so a lot of people, self included, would stand in line for hours and stay in the hall all day, sitting through stuff we didn’t give a shit for to see the things we were excited about.

I forget what I was there to see, but before that day, I mostly thought of Twilight as basically the teen equivalent of cheap romance novels that get sold at grocery stores; harmless brain candy. I work at a library and read the first one because I try and read all the books with a thousand+ person waitlist. It seemed silly and harmless.

Then I sat through an hour of Twilight mania in a room that was at least half hardcore Twilight fans. Every time whatsisface who played Edward opened his mouth, they screamed.

Before every Q&A, fans are asked not to ask personal questions/make personal requests. Grown women asked the actor what kind of underwear he wore, what it was like being the sexiest man in the world, and whether he liked older women. I wanted to sink through the floor in embarrassment and none of the insanity was even directed at me.

Before then, the worst question I’d heard anyone ask was during another panel I was sitting through to see something else. A gormless wannabe screenwriter told an actress she was beautiful and asked if she’d star in his sure-to-be-a-blockbuster film. She laughed, and all 2,000 people in the audience jeered and booed.

No one laughed or booed adult women asking sparkly vampire dude what undies he had on.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Telling people what they can and cannot ship. A couple of days ago I stumbled upon a tumblr post that pretty much said "PSA: don't ship X/Y (forgot the names) because they are cousins and straight." As if that has ever stopped anyone from shipping whatever they want to ship.

Also telling people what to write in their fics. I'm cool with suggestions, requests or questions like "is xyz going to happen?" but not "You better not write abc!" or "You should've done dcf instead!"

I do adore the commentators that threaten to quit reading the fic if something they don't like happens. They always make me laugh and think "Bye, Felicia!"

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I have been there to witness 14 year old fangirls hand voice actors explicit yaoi doujinshi to sign and spend the whole time talking about how hot it is that "their" character and this other male character are getting it on. More than once. Mind you, American dub voice actors for Japanese series.

Re: Breaches of fandom etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I wrote and posted a short character piece about a secondary character. I got a few kudos, and one rather condescending comment, saying the only way I'd get a "real audience" was if I wrote the juggernaut pairing (which didn't even include the character I'd written about.)