[ SECRET POST #4520 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4520 ⌋

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[Reservoir Dogs]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with everyone who is skeptical here. After all, there's a difference between "attractive" and "attracted to". I think anyone can acknowledge someone is objectively and/or conventionally attractive, even if they're not personally attracted to them.

[(Anonymous)]

I think "find someone attractive" generally entails being personally attracted to them

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree. Hence my comment demonstrating the nuanced difference between the two.

[(Anonymous)]

Your comment was about the difference between "attractive" and "attracted to." My thing is that the figure of speech "find someone attractive" actually falls more in the second category, not the first.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes! This! There is a difference. I finally started answering “do you think so and so is attractive” with “well, they’re symmetrical enough”. As odd as it is, it’s easier than explaining the difference.

[(Anonymous)]

DA, but no? There are plenty of celebrities who I think are objectively attractive, they just aren't my personal type.

[(Anonymous)]

DA but isn't attractiveness inherently subjective? How can something or someone be "objectively" attractive?

Isn't that like saying something is "objectively" delicious?

[(Anonymous)]

Studies have shown that there are certain physical proportions and ratios that people find more aesthetically pleasing than others, consciously or subconsciously.

[(Anonymous)]

True!

Except studies have also shown that the physical proportions, ratios, and features that people find attractive can totally differ by culture.

Unless you're going to insist that every culture agree with yours, how do you find objectivity in that?

[(Anonymous)]

I suppose that in a global entertainment landscape, there are some people that are ALMOST universally thought to be pretty/handsome.


I think that the average face composite in every country is pretty or handsome.

https://leadingpersonality.wordpress.com/2013/09/30/average-faces-of-men-and-women-around-the-world/

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed, I would say they're all rather attractive. Some more than others, but there isn't a single one that I DON'T think is pretty or handsome.

[(Anonymous)]

yeah but usually when you're chatting about it to other people, the question "isn't X is hot?" has the implication that the asker is in fact attracted to X. they're not asking if you consider them conventionally attractive in the abstract sense, they're asking if you, like they, are attracted to X.

I agree with the secret OP, I remember that thread and the responses here just make me feel all the more abnormal because I don't, in fact, consider any celebrity attractive beyond "well they have a symmetrical face" or "that is a good haircut on them." it's possible to not engage with celebrity information very much, especially if you don't see many movies. maybe I'm broken. maybe I don't see real people often enough to care. maybe I'm just old and jaded. maybe people aren't as hot as they used to be. I used to think Ewan McGregor was pretty hot back in my youth. now I can't be arsed to give a shit.

[(Anonymous)]

OP of original comment

I used to feel like I was broken too. In my teens everyone would have calendars and posters of their favourite celebrities and I just couldn't find it in myself to care about these random people I'd never met and would never meet. Obviously as a teen I felt like a freak. Now I don't think it's a bad thing to not give a crap about random people living hundreds or thousands of miles away who are completely irrelevant to my life.

As for not finding them attractive (in the 'being attracted to them' sense), well apparently I just need more than how someone looks and that's just who I am. Eh.