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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-24 06:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #4522 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4522 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Matrix]


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[Mr Meaty]


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[Roxanne from A Goofy Movie]


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[Arya/Gendry]


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10. [SPOILERS for Dawson's Creek]



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11. [WARNING for abuse, etc.]

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thewakokid: (Default)

[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean. Especially with the recent accusation that she was abusive towards him.

Like there are sometimes some excuses for cheating, not great excuses but you can't even say that much about sending dick pics to kids.

There's never a good motivation that people would accept for that.

MAYBE the answer is that people don't know that the dic pics were sent to kids, but we all know he cheated on his wife so they hit him with the thing we know to be true... but that doesn't even fly very well since everyone I talk to seems to believe he did both.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I think Jared is a sicko and the cheating is just icing on his creep cake. I don’t believe the allegations of his wife being abusive tho - I think that’s just the lie he told the girl he was cheating with to make her okay with it. It would fit the pattern of the type of manipulative person that would send nudes to kids.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
OH quite possibly. I am WELL sceptical on the allegation of abuse. It's possible sure, but just like with Amber Heard and Michael Fassbender I need solid proof vetted by experts before I buy it outright.

Point I was driving at is that it is possible for there to be some good reasons for cheating - like abuse - there is no such mitigating factor with the dick pics.

I mean, sure I also need proof that the dick pics were sent to kids before I start building the scaffolds, but if you're somone already inclined to believe all this stuff on the face of it, the dick pics are the part that's impossible to justify

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Considering the source that his wife was abusive is from the girl he was cheating with the evidence it’s sketchy at best that there’s any truth to that claim. Especially since more context came out and it’s pretty clear Holly was trying to drudge up sympathy points and use manipulative behavior and out of context texts.

As for no one talking about the predatory aspect, uh? Everyone is. Any reddit thread about him has at least one comment going “why is no one talking about the fact that he solicited nudes from minors” at least any time he’s mentioned. Also the victims have gone silent probably because an investigation is happening while Holly and Jared keep stirring the cheating pot issue.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, I have healthy doubt for the claims her was being abused, same doubt I always have when an allegation is presented without solid proof - It's possible but I need to be sure. Point I was making is that there is some valid reasons to cheat, but there's no valid reason to send a dick pic.

And I never said no-one is talking about it - Personal rule of mine, I try to never say "No-one is doing X" because it doesn't matter what X is, someone somewhere is doing it - but I do agree broadly with OP in that the focus most people have is heavily on the cheating and not the kids stuff.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Lol there are NO excuses for cheating. If you want to fuck other people, sack up and leave the one you're with.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Even if they're abusive and attempting to leave them will lead to a hospital trip?

Nah, bro.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Because staying but cheating won't lead to a hospital trip, too.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
not an immediate one. Maybe you cheat until you can get safely free?

I dunno, I'm neither abused, nor have I ever cheated, but I figure in an abusive situation cheating is fair.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
And that's why what you say is bullshit. You're looking for a reason to justify cheating.

You're talking over an abused person here: it's not an excuse, but for reasons unrelated to fairness which is what you seem to think is the only valid reason. You can't guarantee you won't be found out and tbh dating isn't worth that risk of a bullet in your skull or a knife in your chest.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
And you seem to be looking for a reason to shame people who cheat on abusive people. so...

and I'm sorry, I'm going to need to see the photographs of the bruises or the police reports or the hospital reports of the broken bones, because anyone can say "I'm an abuse survivor so what I say goes and you need to stop talking or you're "Talking over an abuse survivor, Ha Checkmate my horrible past means I win!"

So prove your cred or accept that your opinion on what other people are allowed to do in an abusive relationship is literally not one drop more valid than mine.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, of the two of us, one of us is trying to tell abuse victims what they should be doing to keep their abuser happy, and the other one is offering a no-judgement opinion on why what an abuse victim might choose to do is not morally wrong.

But sure, you go ahead and morally judge abuse survivors to own the wakos, that's what you gotta do.

(Anonymous) 2021-02-23 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You're one of the most obnoxious people I've ever seen, and also one of the biggest callous asshole.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Of course you think there's an excuse for cheating. Of course. If he wanted to be with Holly so bad, ask for a divorce then and fucking there. Not try to keep a marriage afloat when he was clearly only doing so for the public image and because Holly was married still.

All of the "evidence" of Heidi being abusive all is from after she found out about the cheating going on for months and was worn down by both of them treating her like shit and lashing out for fucking once.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
There are valid reasons for cheating.

In this case I doubt the veracity of the abuse accusations, same I as I always doubt such accusation until I see vetted proof. *Not coughing* Amber Heard. I was alone fighting in "Hold the fuck on and see how this goes" corner around here. Not giving Jared any more of an easy run on it.

But in a hypothetical situation where a person is being abused, as this could well turn out to be however much I doubt it, yes, I think being abused IS a damn good reason to cheat. I mean ideally you'd want to leave the situation first, but if attempting to leave the situation will get you a hospital visit... What would you tell someone in that situation to do?

Also, Not that I want to focus in too tightly on what I'm reading as a personal slight, what did you mean by this?

"Of course you think there's an excuse for cheating. Of course."

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
I mean you're a sexist asshole with his head up his ass. So of course you think there's excuses.

And as someone who's been abused, both by a partner and by her parents: no. There is no excuse. Because all you're going to do is, if you get caught, potentially get fucking killed or hurt in even worse ways. It's too fucking dangerous.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
Serously, did you just learn the word sexist and you want to use it as often as you can?

Are you impling abusers don't deserve to be cheated on? It's unfair to abusers? There is no excuse to do somthing so mean to an abuser? That where you are on this? People owe their abuser better than to cheat on them?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's not about fairness, it's about safety, you absolute walnut.
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
So what are you saying all abuse victims DO have a responsibility to do to ensure their safety?

Because if you try to leave the abusers without having somewhere safe to go, you get killed. But you should turn down a healthy relationship that could save you because... it's not safe to cheat on the abuser?

So, what are you telling abuse survivors to do? Keep the abuser happy until a magical fairy god mother comes along to save them?

Seriously is this just a "Wako takes this point of view so I have to oppose him" thing? Cause telling people in an abusive relationship to not do something to seek safety and a healthier relationship because if they find out the abuser will kill them... That seems like a stance only taken be someone who wants to argue.