[ SECRET POST #4522 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4522 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Matrix]


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03.
[Mr Meaty]


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04.
[Roxanne from A Goofy Movie]


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05. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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06. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]

[Arya/Gendry]


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07. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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08. [SPOILERS for Avengers Endgame]



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09. [SPOILERS for Avengers Endgame]



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10. [SPOILERS for Dawson's Creek]



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11. [WARNING for abuse, etc.]

[ProJared]



















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #647.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[osidiano]

Loving all these comments about how fanfic authors don't have costs associated with their work like fanartists do, simply because they publish the final version online (which fanartists also do?? It's not like you're going to a gallery and seeing it in person). Because no one writes the drafts in notebooks, right? And that 125,000 word fic you love so much was definitely organized and written in a free open source writing program, right? And a writer's time is totally worth less than a "real artist's" right??

I'm with you, OP. If you don't have a problem supporting artists and musicians, why should fanartists or filk musicians or plushie makers or whatever be that different? I think it's awesome that you're giving back to the community that gives you so much joy. Especially with the way the gig economy is undermining the gains made by the Labor Movement (at least here Stateside), it seems stupid to look down on people for trying to find ways to keep doing what they love.

[jadeile]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

That's not what is being said here. Most of the people who are against fic writers making a profit are also against fanartists making a profit since they are using another's IP to do so. What people are okay with is money to recoup costs that are inherent with publishing print media for distribution.

Additionally, I think you're overstating costs and ignoring that artists have similiar, if not more expensive costs, and are also being told they shouldn't make a profit from fanworks. Everyone has internet and libreoffice is free. A notebook and pen is like 10 bucks at most.

[osidiano]

I'm not saying artists don't have those costs. I'm saying that writers ALSO have costs, so fanfic writers having Patreons to recoup costs or whatever doesn't mean they're necessarily "making a profit." Libreoffice may be free, but it's a bitch and a half to use to organize novel-length works, much like Microsoft Word, which tends to crash when you're trying to go through a 500 page manuscript. And artists and writers are both using pens and paper; all the drafts and practice work take up resources, and not all organization and creative methods use the same kind of stuff. Asking for commission so you can afford Scrivener is not fundamentally different than doing commissions so you can get Illustrator or Photoshop, or like your internet, which isn't free.

And again, people's time has value, and artists -- whether they're writers or painters or sculptors or designers -- deserve to be paid for their work.

Like, I get it, IP is a big deal, but if you're making content that the IP holder just isn't, then it's not like you're not taking away anything from the IP holder. They're not losing profit or business.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't had Word crash on me in years. And my first original IP book is 500 pages once properly formatted. And would have been closer to 700 if double spaced on 8.5 x 11 paper.

Getting Word 2013 was worth it, I guess.