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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-30 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4528 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4528 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-30 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone was staring at a Glock gun while being held hostage. Do they hate the company Glock GmbH or their kidnapers?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-30 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't HAVE a direct person like a kidnapper. They have a *very* popular celebrity who brags about making weapons. It isn't like Tony Stark is just some unknown gun manufacturer. He is a celebrity. If Tom Cruise made a crossbow that killed your parent, you would hate Tom Cruise.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
This was my thought. Tony was never exactly low-profile.

OP

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
I hate this kind of comments: Imagine a terrible thing happen to you, what'd you do?

I think their motivation is illogical. Most people whould hate the person who dropped the bomb and wouldn't side with criminals to get their revenge. It just doesn't make sense.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
They did also hate the people who dropped the bomb; Steve just wasn't one of them because at the time he was "dead" and completely out of the picture. Tony, on the other hand, was the face of Stark Industries at the time, and according to the first Iron Man movie was actively involved in advertising and selling the weapons with his name on them. They can hate America AND Tony in that situation.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2019-06-01 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Now I wonder if they ever went after those who dropped the bomb. I'm a movie Wanda fan but I've never seen it explored in fics.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
Elsewhere in this thread, you seem baffled that people would hold weapon manufacturers accountable for global conflicts and think that they exist to "arm US soldiers with the best weapons". I don't think you're qualified to comment on what's politically realistic.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2019-06-01 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
And here's why we have so few named users on fs.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? "guns don't kill people, people kill people"? That's really the line of defense that you're going with here?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt
My line of defence is that literally no one hates weapons manufacturers irl. Most don't even know their names.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about "hate", but there are definitely people in real life who are highly critical of gun manufacturers and weapons manufacturers on political and moral grounds, and probably would go so far as to call weapons manufacturers evil.

And if you're talking about small arms, people definitely do think that gun manufacturers are culpable - whether morally or legally - for some gun crimes. They've literally been sued in court for it.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but most manufacturers are a faceless corporation. Tony was a famous celebrity.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Remember when Northrop Grumman was going to team up with Marvel and there was a massive outcry so they didn't? Like, last year?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, yes, they do. When people criticize the military-industrial complex, that's what they're talking about. Arms companies irl aren't in the business of promoting their CEOs as rockstar celebs, but people well-informed on the subject will at least know the names of the biggest defense contractors no matter how much they try to hide behind corporate anonymity.